Counting Cards in Connecticut

[Duke0590]

Hi all,
I live in CT with access to 3 casinos within driving distance (MGM Springfield, Mohegan, Foxwoods). Does it make sense to learn card counting if there are only 3 available casinos? If I get backed off of one would that end any chance of profiting off Blackjack?

Also, I’m seeing a wide range of EV that is attainable ($10-$400) hourly. Does this simply depend on bankroll and betting size assuming perfect basic strategy and counting? I’m looking to learn as a part time hobby around 8-10 hours of play per week if it is profitable.

Thanks!

[UncleChoo]

Hi all,
I live in CT with access to 3 casinos within driving distance (MGM Springfield, Mohegan, Foxwoods). Does it make sense to learn card counting if there are only 3 available casinos? If I get backed off of one would that end any chance of profiting off Blackjack?

Also, I’m seeing a wide range of EV that is attainable ($10-$400) hourly. Does this simply depend on bankroll and betting size assuming perfect basic strategy and counting? I’m looking to learn as a part time hobby around 8-10 hours of play per week if it is profitable.

Thanks!

From what I've learned to achieve a good hourly win rate in a 6D shoe game you have to spread real wide which will also add a lot of volatility to your bankroll and shorten your longevity with playing at the same places. You have to run sims to calculate your hourly rate and RoR. I'm going to lean towards a $400 hourly win rate isn't realistic. Most people here seem to play the DD games which seem to have better profit potential with a smaller spread, but I'd stay away from those
games until well prepared and bankrolled because I do know those are the games that heavily watched.

[21forme]

There are no DD games in/near CT.

[UncleChoo]

There are no DD games in/near CT.

I didn't know this. I just know from my own study and reading what you guys post the DD games seems to be where it's at, depending on game obviously. That's why threw it out there.
I live by a great game I would love to play, seems to be very generous rules at a small older casino. Weirdest min max I ever saw. Min $50 Max $1000.

[BoSox]

There are no DD games in/near CT.

I didn't know this. I just know from my own study and reading what you guys post the DD games seems to be where it's at, depending on game obviously. That's why threw it out there

I will politely disagree with you on this one. For most established players shoe games are where it's at.

I live by a great game I would love to play, seems to be very generous rules at a small older casino. Weirdest min max I ever saw. Min $50 Max $1000.

That above min/max house requirement seems pretty normal for the green level player games, at a smaller casino.

[21forme]

I will politely disagree with you on this one. For most established players shoe games are where it's at.

I agree with Bosox. Being new here, you don't know who you should believe and who you shouldn't. That will come with time. Here's a hint - don't take advice from any forum member whose handle starts with the last letter of the alphabet.

[UncleChoo]

I agree with Bosox. Being new here, you don't know who you should believe and who you shouldn't. That will come with time. Here's a hint - don't take advice from any forum member whose handle starts with the last letter of the alphabet.

Ha Ha. Yeah, I had no idea most people prefer 6D shoes vs double deck with good penetration. Maybe for camouflage reasons. That's why when respond to someone I try to mention I'm just a beginner myself to hint my two cents might only be worth a cent and a half

[Freightman]

Ha Ha. Yeah, I had no idea most people prefer 6D shoes vs double deck with good penetration. Maybe for camouflage reasons. That's why when respond to someone I try to mention I'm just a beginner myself to hint my two cents might only be worth a cent and a half

You’re doing pretty well so far - not to worry.

[Freightman]

You’re doing pretty well so far - not to worry.

Also for UnckeChoo
Keep mentioning that you’re a newbie when giving out advice. It says 3 things.
1. I want to learn more by participating.
2. It tells the person you’re responding to be careful about accepting your comments at face value, to seek reinforcement.
3. An established poster can confirm, add to, or possibly amend your comments.

I said 3, but participating will help you season yourself - I guess that’s 4.

[BoSox]

Forgot to mention that playing shoe games you are more likely to find late surrender offered which is huge for a card counter especially one with tight bankroll concerns.

[Freightman]

Forgot to mention that playing shoe games you are more likely to find late surrender offered which is huge for a card counter especially one with tight bankroll concerns.

Surrender, when used properly, will add 1/3 to a counters win rate.

[Freightman]

I agree with Bosox. Being new here, you don't know who you should believe and who you shouldn't. That will come with time. Here's a hint - don't take advice from any forum member whose handle starts with the last letter of the alphabet.

Double Deck games, because of the high volatility involved, are counter traps. Know your store well before any appreciable spreads at DD.

Shoe games, as has been intimated, are less volatile, easier to spread, and to practice artistry (especially when heads up).

[BoSox]

Ha Ha. Yeah, I had no idea most people prefer 6D shoes vs double deck with good penetration.

Maybe for camouflage reasons.

Playing blackjack is not always about preferences sometimes it is about having more concern for being welcomed back. Some advantages with shoe games, larger betting opportunities will last for a while longer especially latter in the shoe as the true count seems to stay the same because of the divisor "number of decks" is smaller for example: with three decks left and you have a running count of +9 you have a true count of +3 further into the shoe you have a running count of +6 with two decks left in the shoe, you are still at a true count of +3.

Plus remember the smart words that Freightman said below:

Double Deck games, because of the high volatility involved, are counter traps. Know your store well before any appreciable spreads at DD.

Shoe games, as has been intimated, are less volatile, easier to spread, and to practice artistry (especially when heads up).