St. Louis in 2019?

[Freightman]

Zee, i think Freightman may be referring to your betting.
Being consistently inconsistent is actually a good consistency.

Bingo. The overall ramp should be greater, divide the overall by 2, each half should be its own individual ramp, and mix them up. The bankroll should be strong. A few other tricks, but that’s the general idea.

[BoSox]

Is St. Louis a good place to play in comparison to the rest of the country? It is my closest city. I have been training for the last 8 or so months and about to put my skills to the test shortly. Would a 1-5 bet spread from $25-$125 gain a lot of attention? Any advice for a new player?

Now, to BJ, yes the $25 to $125 spread works, provided you don’t bet same amount same TC, provided you dont become a “regular”. The DD games are in HL rooms (Ameristar and Hollywood and River City).

The 6 deck games are decent and on main floor so, if you are going to play often, make DD games short (under 40 minutes, maybe less), play red chip 6 deck games often and use a good act.

Originally Posted by Talmadge
Zee, i think Freightman may be referring to your betting.
Being consistently inconsistent is actually a good consistency.

Freightman wrote:
"Bingo. The overall ramp should be greater, divide the overall by 2, each half should be its own individual ramp, and mix them up. The bankroll should be strong. A few other tricks, but that’s the general idea."

What do you mean "don't bet same amount same True Count". Do you mean slightly vary your betting amount even when you have the same TC?

TAGR, what Zee and Freighter are talking about is pertaining to using different forms of "Opposition Betting". Defined below by Arnold Synder in his book "Blackbelt In Blackjack" page 109.

"Sizing your bets as to appear to be raising your bets when the count is going down and lowering your bets when the count is going up. The purpose of opposition betting is to get a large spread."

TAGR, you did not say whether or not which game you play double deck or shoe or both. Opposition betting is more suitable for shoe games rather than the double deck. Because on the two-deck game by the time you make your camo bet the count may change too radically or a shuffle occurred.

[BJGenius007]

River city is good as well, probably the best penetration on 6 deck anywhere (though I believe their ASM are programmed and it’s not random).

My newest theory is that ShuffleMaster approachedto the casinos that have gone to bankruptcy or almost gone to bankruptcy and tell them that they can get even with card counters. Thus I feel ASM in MGM and Wynn owned properties OK to me, but all casinos owned by Harahh's don't. The same hypothesis seems to apply to small casinos, too. Not feeling random from ASM at casinos that are near bankruptcy.

[BoSox]

First, St. Louis is not the most dangerous city. Unlike other cities, St. Louis city is small because almost all it’s suburbs do not want St. Louis to govern them and thus It’s suburbs, Chesterfield, Clayton, Ladue, Ballwin etc, all under 10 miles from downtown St. Louis are not included in the census. They are their own cities with police, mayor, etc. Thus, St. Louis is shown as a declining city (now 23rd or so in the USA) when with its suburbs. It should be in the top 12.

Zee, the people that live in the suburbs of St.Louis are still counted in the census.

Now, to BJ, yes the $25 to $125 spread works, provided you don’t bet same amount same TC, provided you dont become a “regular”. The DD games are in HL rooms (Ameristar and Hollywood and River City).

The 6 deck games are decent and on main floor so, if you are going to play often, make DD games short (under 40 minutes, maybe less), play red chip 6 deck games often and use a good act.

Zee, on one hand, you say don't become a regular, then you say play red chip 6 deck games often, how can you achieve both tasks at the same time?

[ZeeBabar]

“Zee, on one hand, you say don't become a regular, then you say play red chip 6 deck games often, how can you achieve both tasks at the same time?”

Bosox, I meant that you should not become a regular in the HL room. It’s easier to play and leave from a busy main floor without being noticed and moreover, when you go from playing $25 min to $10 tables, doing more of the latter, it might be easier for a card counter to get away with it.

St. Louis has about 4 casinos and I try not to play more than 1-2 short sessions at any one casino each week.

[Ryemo]

St Louis pretty good games that look great on paper, but they’ve gotten really sweaty over the last few years. I know several low stakes APs who’ve been placed into OSN or Biometrica for pretty small bet spreads. But the games are good... if you can last without detection. Good luck with that.