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    Finding card counters in the wild.

    What is typical protocol when being approached by another cc after a session? It’s always so awkward, I don’t know if I should give my info away, but I know connections are at least somewhat valuable in the ap world. Thoughts, comments, advice? Thanks guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thenarrowpath View Post
    What is typical protocol when being approached by another cc after a session? It’s always so awkward, I don’t know if I should give my info away, but I know connections are at least somewhat valuable in the ap world. Thoughts, comments, advice? Thanks guys.
    I don’t know that I was ever approached in a casino by someone who wanted to meet me. It was either to let me know they know I am a counter or to let me know that I was the Zee on this forum or to tell me “you know the count has to be +7 (or some such) to play the side bet” after I had played the side bet.

    I was disappointed that they showed no interest in getting together for dinner or drinks.

    If I was approached, I would assume the person knows I might have money on me and be extra careful, after all, it would be an AP move to get to know where I am staying or what Ai was driving.

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    I’d generally talk to them for a few minutes. If they’re competent and at least somewhat knowledgeable I’d try to exchange some contact information, see if they post on any forums or whatever, that kinda stuff. Then from there just act like a regular human being and see where it goes.
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    I would be horrified. It would mean I have some sort of tell I am unaware of. I would be really interested in how they picked up on my counting in the short period of time I was playing.

    My first response would be to ask them what made them think I was able to keep track of all of the cards like Rainman.

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    I told one guy I am "Not into that illegal shit, man" and told the other I had a "traumatic brain injury and can't remember my last hand never mind memorize every card".

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJPloppy View Post
    I would be horrified. It would mean I have some sort of tell I am unaware of. I would be really interested in how they picked up on my counting in the short period of time I was playing.

    My first response would be to ask them what made them think I was able to keep track of all of the cards like Rainman.
    It's all in your bet spread. Spreading to multiple hands it's very easy to spot you. I had one at my table the other day spreading from 1 to 6. Every time I raised my bet so did the counter. I played with the counter for about 1 hour and left the table over $2,500 ahead. The other counter was in the hole when I left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye of the Eagle View Post
    I played with the counter for about 1 hour and left the table over $2,500 ahead. The other counter was in the hole when I left.
    You mean you are better AP or you are luckier at that session?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cc12b View Post
    You mean you are better AP or you are luckier at that session?
    Bad luck for him. Good luck for me. Happens all the time win some lose some. He had the skills but luck wasn't on his side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye of the Eagle View Post
    Bad luck for him. Good luck for me. Happens all the time win some lose some. He had the skills but luck wasn't on his side.
    Maybe his pathetic 1-6 spread contributed to his (otherwise meaningless) bad session result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BJPloppy View Post
    I would be horrified. It would mean I have some sort of tell I am unaware of. I would be really interested in how they picked up on my counting in the short period of time I was playing.

    My first response would be to ask them what made them think I was able to keep track of all of the cards like Rainman.
    If you count and you can't identify another counter.......you need to pay attention more. I see many 'want a be' counters, but they don't have the spread and lose the count 2 decks into a 6 deck shoe.

    From experience, if someone comes up to me and starts talking about counting, you raise your bets the same as me, blah blah blah. Just look at them and say, what the fuck are you talking about? Then shake your head and walk away. Don't trust anyone in the casino with this kind of counter info.

    My first back off happened when a guy spoke with me about my bet spread etc. After we chatted for 10-min, I was approached in the hallway 15-min later by security telling me 'no more BJ for you'. That guy was a casino shill and confirmed me......fucking narc

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