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    Technology and it’s advances..

    How far in the future is it that technology, in real time, can tell surveillance the count at each table on the floor and in HL rooms and on the floor? How long before surveillance is immediately notified when a big bet is placed (not the dealer calling checks play)?

    I noticed the other day at one large casino where there were 5 tables being played. Seems that every time the count went to TC+2, the guy staring at a monitor, would walk over and watch the table or a pit person was there. Leaves and returns every time it’s a high positive count.

    Used to be that the cover and act was critical to longevity but maybe technology makes that irrelevant.

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    Didn't you post identical trash a couple months ago?

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    All of that is doable now, but at a rather high price. The number of people playing blackjack who are capable of significantly hurting a casino's profits number in the dozens. Installing a security system that could automatically track all of the games would actually lose money for the casino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by refinery View Post
    Didn't you post identical trash a couple months ago?
    When will you learn to ignore my posts? They all end up long with just one or two idiots posting useless stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    How far in the future is it that technology, in real time, can tell surveillance the count at each table on the floor and in HL rooms and on the floor? How long before surveillance is immediately notified when a big bet is placed (not the dealer calling checks play)?<snip>
    ZeeBabar,

    You're 16 years too late: the infamous MindPlay with its marked cards made its debut in 2003: see

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MindPlay

    The Wikipedia article has two slight inaccuracies: the 14 cameras in the raised chip tray were actually used to read the players' wagers (the marked cards themselves were read by a specially-equipped shoe) and the "special chips" (actually, RFID-tagged chips) were actually part of a different system called TableLink.

    Hope this helps!

    Dog Hand

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    Some casinos use RFID chips on black chips and above. Sensors in the betting circle determine players' bets without the dealer calling out checks play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    When will you learn to ignore my posts? They all end up long with just one or two idiots posting useless stuff.
    That's a reflection on your threads, dweeb!

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    Quote Originally Posted by refinery View Post
    That's a reflection on your threads, dweeb!
    Check it out. I am learning something I did not know (from the others who replied). It was my purpose for posting. What was your point in going on a thread by me, especially since you know you don’t approve of me? Just ignore my threads.

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    Feel honored. He's your personal troll.

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    There is no reason that this can't happen already, using OCR. The issue seems to be that

    1) Casinos don't invest in super high quality cameras

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    2) Implementing a system to keep a running and TC conversion would be expensive to implement. (Not that it's hard, I'm 100% confident I can have a high school senior program that, assuming that the values are fed in to it via OCR, but rather anyone developing this system knows they can charge the casino a pretty penny for it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nighterfighter View Post
    There is no reason that this can't happen already, using OCR. The issue seems to be that

    1) Casinos don't invest in super high quality cameras

    and

    2) Implementing a system to keep a running and TC conversion would be expensive to implement. (Not that it's hard, I'm 100% confident I can have a high school senior program that, assuming that the values are fed in to it via OCR, but rather anyone developing this system knows they can charge the casino a pretty penny for it)
    I am not sure about the cost issue. If you can reduce your surveillance staff, get information to the pit where they can hawk the right table, seems to me they might actually save stuff. If they suspect card counting at a particular table, if they could use technology to tell them what the count is at a table instantly, would it not help them? Instead, they have to call upstairs and get someone to look into it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky View Post
    Feel honored. He's your personal troll.
    Did something happen to 21forme?

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    Quote Originally Posted by refinery View Post
    Did something happen to 21forme?
    Somebody page me?

    Zee's been on my ignore list for quite a while now. Only time I see his posts is when someone quotes them. I haven't been on his case in probably a year. Thanks for picking up the slack

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