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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharky View Post
    freighty...i, too, play tons of heads up...

    .but the math is the math, bro...how do you think you are overcoming these odds??? luck???
    Nope!
    They’re other factors. Without getting details, Parts of my gaming environment are ..........beneficial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Nope!
    They’re other factors. Without getting details, Parts of my gaming environment are ..........beneficial.
    LOL yeah of course you won't "get into any details". Because you are full of shit, just like Don called you out on again haha. You always pretend like you have some "magic plays" that no other BJ player has figured out in 50 years. Get out of here with that...the math is the math.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Counting_Is_Fun View Post
    LOL yeah of course you won't "get into any details". Because you are full of shit, just like Don called you out on again haha. You always pretend like you have some "magic plays" that no other BJ player has figured out in 50 years. Get out of here with that...the math is the math.
    The stupidest thing I hear is “the math is the math”. The problem is that you can never be “the math”. The math never has to deal with travel expenses, heat, finding a table to play, can always bet optimally, has an unlimited bankroll, never gets fatigue or distracted etc, etc.

    Freightman is right that we have to each deal with ways to play through negative counts and develop our own act. Obviously, telling you how he does it on this forum will expose him. You can’t fly to get to a casino, spend hours scouting, find a great fast dealer who gives great penetration and then walk away from that table the first time the count gets negative. You develop your own strategy of how to survive the negative counts and how to compensate the minimal losses with other strategies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTR2021 View Post
    I must not have gotten that far yet. Am in the SCORE section...

    Don, what page in BJA do you prescribe departure points?
    Chapter 13

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talmadge View Post
    Chapter 13
    Thanks Tal. Read it last night.

    Summary: Play as few negative counts as possible.

    Hey Don, you're a good writer and all but if you need someone to dumb your stuff down some, I'm your guy

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    This topic and thread are what I consider a very worthwhile discussion. I would like to touch on both sides "pro and con" on some of what Freightman has said up to this point.


    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    As everyone knows, I play all. Further, I usually play heads up with a no hole card game. This translates into that most important factor, hands per hour. If I leave a shoe because of a shitty count, then that shoe is dead until someone else shows up – clearly unacceptable to both myself and the house.

    The math may be the math, but it is not necessarily the most practical.
    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    As far as backcounting goes, I’m not prepared to backcount the full lower limit tables. Further, if high limit only has 1 table open, and your heads up, either play all or play nothing. When I do share a table, I wong out where practical.
    Obviously, under those two above situations, he either plays all or goes home as his hand is being forced either-or. Most of us have faced those type of situations before.


    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    I don’t know about you, but I would be delighted to play 1 negative shoe for 1 positive shoe. In fact, if you want to make that 2 negative for 1 positive, I’ll take that ratio too.

    No magic formula here freighter with superlative index play baloney bullshit which can only help so much in a shoe game. By the way, all of that inconsistent play by the index of true count and timing is being noticed upstairs. You are accomplishing victory with your SPREAD period. I realize because of the game table situations there is little else to do. One problem though in playing all hands heads up is the very large percentages of waiting bets "your own minimum bet" that you are making which is giving plenty of information to the eye upstairs especially if you are the only person in the pit playing.
    Last edited by BoSox; 07-12-2019 at 07:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTR2021 View Post
    Hey Don, you're a good writer and all but if you need someone to dumb your stuff down some, I'm your guy
    I'm still trying to figure out the Floating Advantage chapter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out the Floating Advantage chapter.
    As more cards get dealt, ignoring the count, shit gets slightly better. But don't worry about it much cuz it's barely noticeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTR2021 View Post
    As more cards get dealt, ignoring the count, shit gets slightly better. But don't worry about it much cuz it's barely noticeable.
    I thought so as I read it about 47 times. Thank you all so much. If Don does not hire you I will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    This topic and thread are what I consider a very worthwhile discussion. I would like to touch on both sides "pro and con" on some of what Freightman has said up to this point.






    Obviously, under those two above situations, he either plays all or goes home as his hand is being forced either-or. Most of us have faced those type of situations before.





    No magic formula here freighter with superlative index play baloney bullshit which can only help so much in a shoe game. By the way, all of that inconsistent index play by true count and timing is being noticed upstairs. You are accomplishing victory with your SPREAD period. I realize because of the game table situations there is little else to do. One problem though in playing all hands heads up is the very large percentages of waiting bets "your own minimum bet" that you are making which is giving plenty of information to the eye upstairs especially if you are the only person in the pit playing.
    Negative index play reduces losses, and I play a lot of shit shoes where I get all of the hands. Funny thing though, when they’re good shoes, I still get all of the hands. You do know I’ve been around a long time. I’m a little surprised that you suggest that I don’t know what I’m doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Negative index play reduces losses, and I play a lot of shit shoes where I get all of the hands. Funny thing though, when they’re good shoes, I still get all of the hands. You do know I’ve been around a long time. I’m a little surprised that you suggest that I don’t know what I’m doing.
    I am not suggesting anything but just replying to what you said previously in the thread below:


    "
    The math may be the math, but it is not necessarily the most practical. I make up shitty counts with loads of index play and speed of play. It works for me. "

    The above quote does not sound like what you are now saying:

    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Negative index play reduces losses, and I play a lot of shit shoes where I get all of the hands.
    I also realize you are using other tools in the toolbox.
    Last edited by BoSox; 07-12-2019 at 07:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    I am not suggesting anything but just replying to what you said previously in the thread.


    "
    The math may be the math, but it is not necessarily the most practical. I make up shitty counts with loads of index play and speed of play. It works for me. "

    The above quote does not sound like what you are now saying:

    Different ways if saying the same thing I suppose. This thread is getting stupid.

    Btw, would you rather play 250 hph heads up, or 50 hph at a full table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Counting_Is_Fun View Post
    LOL yeah of course you won't "get into any details". Because you are full of shit, just like Don called you out on again haha. You always pretend like you have some "magic plays" that no other BJ player has figured out in 50 years. Get out of here with that...the math is the math.
    I’d like to know what reincarnated sack of shit you are. Always the negative asshole. Go fuck yourself.

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