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    Which Casinos Trespass on First Offense

    I think most casinos just back off for the first time. Does anyone know which casinos are true ass holes and trespass for first offense. Maybe we can shame these casinos by listing them.

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    Midwest Player,

    I've been "trespassed on first offense" (TOFO'd) more than half-a-dozen times, but I'm reluctant to name names, as the casinos might then be able to associate my handle with my name.

    At any rate, the practice does not seem very unusual to me.

    Dog Hand

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    Oh, please. Most casinos will back you off on a first offense UNLESS they think you are part of a team, then trespass is the norm.

    An exception to this is dependent on your bet levels. If you are less than black chips then most will be a backoff. The higher these denominations might go, the higher the probability of trespass.

    Remember, these are "game protection" moves and the red/green chippers can't do much damage. The black/purple/yellow guys are dangerous.

    Also note that the size of the balckjack action (# tables) plays a roll, a casino with 3 tables will sweat smaller numbers than the store with 90 tables. Just do the math from their side.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth View Post
    Oh, please. Most casinos will back you off on a first offense UNLESS they think you are part of a team, then trespass is the norm.

    An exception to this is dependent on your bet levels. If you are less than black chips then most will be a backoff. The higher these denominations might go, the higher the probability of trespass.

    Remember, these are "game protection" moves and the red/green chippers can't do much damage. The black/purple/yellow guys are dangerous.

    Also note that the size of the balckjack action (# tables) plays a roll, a casino with 3 tables will sweat smaller numbers than the store with 90 tables. Just do the math from their side.
    Interestingly enough, the only first visit backoffs I’ve experienced have been in Vegas. My general rotation is essentially fairly tolerant.

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    Many if not the majority of CET properties will go straight to trespass. Around 15% of my restrictions have been 86’d from property, first dozen or so all backoffs the % of trespasses on first offense have risen as the stakes have.

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    Yes, generally the very "first offense" suffices.
    However, if your first session is brief and the
    skills check hasn't been done, your second
    visit will likely be your last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    first offense
    You make it sound like a crime!

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    Post #3 in the thread is really good and makes very logical sense. Thanks, Stealth.

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    My bad guys...posted in the wrong spot.

    Thanks,

    JK
    Last edited by JK14; 06-16-2019 at 09:02 PM. Reason: Wrong spot

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    I’ve had a lot of 86’s on first offense. It depends on the casino and it depends on your stakes. I’ve played at casinos where I was politely backed off or flat bet on first offense, but then my friend who plays much larger stakes got 86’d on his first offense. Sometimes it just depends on how much of a threat they perceive you to be, or maybe that particular shift manager is having a bad day or something,

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