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    Which Casinos Trespass on First Offense

    I think most casinos just back off for the first time. Does anyone know which casinos are true ass holes and trespass for first offense. Maybe we can shame these casinos by listing them.

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    Midwest Player,

    I've been "trespassed on first offense" (TOFO'd) more than half-a-dozen times, but I'm reluctant to name names, as the casinos might then be able to associate my handle with my name.

    At any rate, the practice does not seem very unusual to me.

    Dog Hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Hand View Post
    Midwest Player,

    I've been "trespassed on first offense" (TOFO'd) more than half-a-dozen times, but I'm reluctant to name names, as the casinos might then be able to associate my handle with my name.

    At any rate, the practice does not seem very unusual to me.

    Dog Hand
    You can spill the beans so to speak considering the fact that your handle here is Dog Hand and not your REAL NAME. They won't know who you are with such an anonymous name like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackjackPro View Post
    You can spill the beans so to speak considering the fact that your handle here is Dog Hand and not your REAL NAME. They won't know who you are with such an anonymous name like that.
    Others have been called by their handles and info on file, based on their posts. Not a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Others have been called by their handles and info on file, based on their posts. Not a good idea.
    But shouldn't all of this be ANONYMOUS? When you sign up with an Email you should be using an Email not associated with your REAL name. For example "Dog Hand 1800 at Blackjackforums.net wouldn't tell who he REALLY is. So he should be in the clear.

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    Oh, please. Most casinos will back you off on a first offense UNLESS they think you are part of a team, then trespass is the norm.

    An exception to this is dependent on your bet levels. If you are less than black chips then most will be a backoff. The higher these denominations might go, the higher the probability of trespass.

    Remember, these are "game protection" moves and the red/green chippers can't do much damage. The black/purple/yellow guys are dangerous.

    Also note that the size of the balckjack action (# tables) plays a roll, a casino with 3 tables will sweat smaller numbers than the store with 90 tables. Just do the math from their side.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth View Post
    Oh, please. Most casinos will back you off on a first offense UNLESS they think you are part of a team, then trespass is the norm.

    An exception to this is dependent on your bet levels. If you are less than black chips then most will be a backoff. The higher these denominations might go, the higher the probability of trespass.

    Remember, these are "game protection" moves and the red/green chippers can't do much damage. The black/purple/yellow guys are dangerous.

    Also note that the size of the balckjack action (# tables) plays a roll, a casino with 3 tables will sweat smaller numbers than the store with 90 tables. Just do the math from their side.
    Interestingly enough, the only first visit backoffs I’ve experienced have been in Vegas. My general rotation is essentially fairly tolerant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth View Post
    Oh, please. Most casinos will back you off on a first offense UNLESS they think you are part of a team, then trespass is the norm.

    An exception to this is dependent on your bet levels. If you are less than black chips then most will be a backoff. The higher these denominations might go, the higher the probability of trespass.

    Remember, these are "game protection" moves and the red/green chippers can't do much damage. The black/purple/yellow guys are dangerous.

    Also note that the size of the balckjack action (# tables) plays a roll, a casino with 3 tables will sweat smaller numbers than the store with 90 tables. Just do the math from their side.

    I am a red/green chipper and was trespassed first offense at a 10 table casino. Plus I had a large losing session.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snakeplisskin View Post
    Plus I had a large losing session.
    That explains it all right there. You are talking in the past tense. You already showed them plenty about how you play. Do you think it matters to the eye upstairs if on that day you were losing most of your large bets? It does not. What does matter is when you MADE THOSE BIGGER BETS. Besides why chance ruining a decent win day on you for the casino? The points being once your losses are in the chip tray it is no longer yours and does not buy you any extra time, at least for that day. Plus it stands out where most ploppies would have already headed for the exits defeated much earlier.
    Last edited by BoSox; 07-03-2019 at 05:06 AM.

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    Many if not the majority of CET properties will go straight to trespass. Around 15% of my restrictions have been 86’d from property, first dozen or so all backoffs the % of trespasses on first offense have risen as the stakes have.

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    Yes, generally the very "first offense" suffices.
    However, if your first session is brief and the
    skills check hasn't been done, your second
    visit will likely be your last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    first offense
    You make it sound like a crime!

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    Post #3 in the thread is really good and makes very logical sense. Thanks, Stealth.

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