Blackjack as a source of income

**Freightman** · 06-02-2019, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by mopa9000

The difference between being a pro-basketball player and a full time AP/card counter is that you can look in the mirror and assess your chances of success as a basketball player but the mirror does not show you the mental aspects required to succeed as a full time AP.

Playing basketball in the school yard, or counting cards as a newbie, neither individual knows what the future will bring, or wheather their dreams will come true and that they will elevate themselves to the top of the talent pool. Both endeavours require acute mental toughness.

There is a point in time that the aspiring ball player knows, or the card counter knows, that they have the right stuff.

**Jabberwocky** · 06-02-2019, 07:03 PM

The difference between a pro and amateur is found in the balance sheets.

**Dbs6582** · 06-02-2019, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by mopa9000

First, the math supports it? Math has an unlimited bankroll, never makes mistakes, never has back offs, always bets optimally, does not have emotions, etc., etc. If you can do the same, go for it!

As I, and a million others, have found out, its as tough as becoming a pro basketball or football player and making a living at it. You can argue that one can play professional basketball for 5 years and make as much as you could working 8-5 all your life but it aint easy.

Yeah, these pros do it but, just like the NBA player, these guys are special. A majority of us who have settled for playing recreationally, hoping to break even or supplement income. The difference between being a pro-basketball player and a full time AP/card counter is that you can look in the mirror and assess your chances of success as a basketball player but the mirror does not show you the mental aspects required to succeed as a full time AP.

Mopa900, please reread my email. I never once said the math didn’t support it. I said sure the math supports it, but that doesn’t mean the casinos will allow it.

You’re arguing a point we are in violent agreement on. I don’t know if you’re aware, but when a casinos knows you’re counting and using math, they kick you out.

I’m not saying someone can’t be a “pro” and make money fulltime playing blackjack. Of course they can. But if they do, they either travel a lot or play with cover or have a very good act.

My only comment back to RS is that somehow he was trying to relate surfing in Kansas to making money in blackjack. Like I said before, I’m sure I missed the point RS was trying to make, but if I ever figure it out, I’m sure it was a good point and made sense to RS.

**Member Name Hidden** · 06-03-2019, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by Jabberwocky

The difference between a pro and amateur is found in the balance sheets.

Do you mean that money talks and bullshit walks?

**blueman** · 06-03-2019, 01:18 AM

I would never want to be (only) a full time card counter..

I love what i do. I play poker, and play bj whenever i want (travel involved), and a few other games as well. [Lets just say i like to play "freely"]

Currently making $127 an hour (after thousands of hours I'll have you know) all games combined. Of course poker is the bulk of this.

I play what i want, when i want.

**ummagumma** · 06-03-2019, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by blueman

I would never want to be (only) a full time card counter..

I love what i do. I play poker, and play bj whenever i want (travel involved), and a few other games as well. [Lets just say i like to play "freely"]

Currently making $127 an hour (after thousands of hours I'll have you know) all games combined. Of course poker is the bulk of this.

I play what i want, when i want.

Nice one. Is that online poker or real world or a mixture of the two. If so, what's the proportion of each ?

**Obi-wan21** · 06-03-2019, 08:03 PM

Personally I've used blackjack to support myself since late last year.....but this is after I knew that I was a winner and it was viable, AFTER almost 2 years of study and practice.

Am I foolish enough to jump into this with no rope? No. The reason I did is because it gave me the free time and enough money to focus on my real career without having to wait tables or uber people around. I think it is a very useful skill and trade but I know that at the current rate of backoffs and bankroll growth vs. Expenses that I need to be able to depend on my real career sooner rather than later.

I have one casino in particular that ive won so much money at that I'd be willing to just go back and spend some sessions playing like a poppy for low stakes just to ensure that they don't have a reason give me the boot.