I am surprised more people do not cultivate the skill of card counting. If you have the right skillset in all facets and the means to do it, sure beats a 9-5 job in my own opinion. I understand its not for everyone, just an awesome tool to have in the shed.
After all, the math supports it.
Last edited by SoCalStealth; 06-06-2019 at 02:41 AM.
It's a matter of opinion, or rather personal taste, if it's better than a 9-5 job. Personally, I enjoy the freedom to do basically whatever the hell I want. But that also means I travel quite a bit, don't have a "structured" lifestyle, and I have to keep finding new opportunities to exploit. There are also two types of variance. The first, which we all know, is the swings -- you may lose or win a lot in a short time. The other is in being able to get the hours in or finding a place to play -- if you get backed off at every place for a week straight, you're not getting any hours in. On the other hand, if you find a real tolerant store, you'll get a ton of hours in that week.
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First, the math supports it? Math has an unlimited bankroll, never makes mistakes, never has back offs, always bets optimally, does not have emotions, etc., etc. If you can do the same, go for it!
As I, and a million others, have found out, its as tough as becoming a pro basketball or football player and making a living at it. You can argue that one can play professional basketball for 5 years and make as much as you could working 8-5 all your life but it aint easy.
Yeah, these pros do it but, just like the NBA player, these guys are special. A majority of us who have settled for playing recreationally, hoping to break even or supplement income. The difference between being a pro-basketball player and a full time AP/card counter is that you can look in the mirror and assess your chances of success as a basketball player but the mirror does not show you the mental aspects required to succeed as a full time AP.
Absolutely true. Zee , you have such a low confidence level that you think everything is hard . While card counting is not just add 1 and minus 1 , it takes some skill and a bankroll couple with some discipline and motivation . an some good games and hours of course. It is nowhere close to being a pro basketball , NOWHERE CLOSE!Originally Posted by mcallister3200
Very much like welding
You can be making six figures a year as a welder doing 100% X-ray welds in high pressure steam pipe at a nuclear reactor, or making piece work wage spot welding trinkets in an offshore sweatshop. Training and skill make the difference, along with work ethic and bankroll management.
So you think people fail at being a welder as often as they do fail at becoming a full time BJ pro?
You are vastly under rating the personal characteristics to succeed playing BJ as a full time life long career. Many fail early, others take a bit longer to fail and others go to recreational card counting.
Here’s the main problem. It’s not the math or the time or training it takes to become a skilled counter. This is the easy part. The problem is casinos weren’t built to hand out money to APs. If they know you’re counting, you’ll get the boot. It’s that simple.
Most people don’t live in an area where there are enough casinos to get away with it playing big stakes. You either have to travel a lot or live in a place like Vegas (with a lot of casinos), otherwise you aren’t going to make enough to live on.
Most pros and big players have long ago burned down all their local shops so they have to travel to get a good game. Unless you like to travel a lot, this is a hard way to make a living.
When I was on BJA, that was the first thing I noticed....all the posts from newbies saying they had just lost their local stores once they started counting. Now none of these newbies can play at their local shops, even as a hobby making small pocket change. They too have to travel long distances to get a good game.
Don said it best. Travel long distances to get a good game. Crappy games with poor pen and hawks are pretty common, it's the good games you need to make some money. I prefer to offset my job with recreational play, since I do travel for work. It's a perk, they pay me to travel and I spend my free evenings at 'good' games, if they exist where I have to travel to for work. I would never think of advantage play as my sole source of income, but I do plan on supplementing my retirement with play when that time comes.
For some reason I thought you were already retired and were looking to move to St George.
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