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    Counting System Question

    How much could a players odds improve if there was a way of practicing traditional counting, as well as keeping track of how many of each card value have been played?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AppMiester View Post
    How much could a players odds improve if there was a way of practicing traditional counting, as well as keeping track of how many of each card value have been played?
    Must be Friday.
    Depends on your game and condition. If it’s a shitty game 8deck H17, for example, it may not matter a whole lot. Single deck 3:2 dealt til the last card? Very different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AppMiester View Post
    How much could a players odds improve if there was a way of practicing traditional counting, as well as keeping track of how many of each card value have been played?
    I suppose you could do it but the more complicated you make it, the quicker the fatigue that sets in and you want a bit of fun playing BJ dont you?

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    im not really worried about fatigue, im building an app to do this for me.


    I just don't know how to calculate an edge. If you have 3 decks left in a shoe, (8deck game) and the true count is say +4, and theres no 6's left wouldnt that be benificial?

    Forgive me if I'm presenting an unrealistic scenario, but hopefully you guys understand what I'm trying to ask.

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    There are plenty of effect of removal tables out there. And if you don’t know what they are, or how to find them, you probably should not be making an app for blackjack.
    Also the application for your app, for practice? For use in a game? There is no way that you can use this in a actual B&M casino. If you want to use it on line? They are mostly CSM, which isn’t countable.

    Tl;dr. Don’t reinvent wheels, especially the ones that won’t work.

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    @hsiaodi

    "removal tables" - thanks ill look into that.

    The app will only be intended for entertainment, research, experimentation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AppMiester View Post
    How much could a players odds improve if there was a way of
    practicing traditional counting, as well as keeping track of how
    many of each card value have been played?
    This needs to be restated as it makes no sense at all - as stated.
    If one "counts cards" the results of that often trump Basic Strategy."

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