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    Quote Originally Posted by GMass View Post
    I heard there's a 2D low-minimum (at certain hours) table in ME that's not bad (though no surrender), but I've never made the trip.
    Looks like Oxford casino in Maine has a double deck game.
    https://www.oxfordcasino.com/gaming/table-games/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferenc11 View Post
    8 deck game is depressing.
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMass View Post
    No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferenc11 View Post
    Yes.

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    Sorry. I quoted the wrong post. See next one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJ1 View Post
    I don't believe so, I'm not a paying member. If there is something you know please share with the forum.
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    There are still many playable games in the northeast, the 8D are absolutely beatable with a large spread and wonging. The DD in ME is center cut, Double 9/10/11 only. NDAS NRSA No Surrdender split once $25 min no mid shoe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ferenc11 View Post
    8 deck game is depressing.
    Counting cards is depressing. Truly AP'ing blackjack is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sn1per View Post
    There are still many playable games in the northeast, the 8D are absolutely beatable with a large spread and wonging. The DD in ME is center cut, Double 9/10/11 only. NDAS NRSA No Surrdender split once $25 min no mid shoe.


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    Is this your recent observation or are you relying on CBJN? CBJN hasn't had the Maine shops updated in four years and a guy sitting next to me at another New England shop told me of slightly different rules with a $10min (at some hours) for the DD game. I might take a ride to those shops in a few weeks to check out the actual current conditions and maybe even get some $ from CBJN for updating the conditions.

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    I have not played this game. However two people that I know played it recently and this is what they observed. Hollywood in Bangor has 2 shoe games - 8D H17 DAS DA2 $25-$500 with a 2 deck cut. Not playable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sn1per View Post
    There are still many playable games in the northeast, the 8D are absolutely beatable with a large spread and wonging. The DD in ME is center cut, Double 9/10/11 only. NDAS NRSA No Surrdender split once $25 min no mid shoe.
    That game absolutely sucks!! Are you freakin kidding me!! What's the SCORE on that like 10?

    I said it before and I'll say it again. Blackjack has gone to shit. I suppose PA has good rules and pen but that's about it.

    MJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJ1 View Post
    That game absolutely sucks!! Are you freakin kidding me!! What's the SCORE on that like 10?

    I said it before and I'll say it again. Blackjack has gone to shit. I suppose PA has good rules and pen but that's about it.

    MJ

    Yes, that game is Garbage, as with most of the games in AC and Maine. Playable games in NY, CT, PA, DE, MD, MA, RI, WV for low and moderate stakes.


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    if the public was smart blackjack wouldn't even exist anymore
    neither would casinos for that matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wave View Post
    @MJ1

    Sim results after 10B hands played, no forced shuffle, and a 1:20 spread:

    Play All: DI 3.68 SCORE 13.52 N0 73,988 Factor .541
    ODPs: DI 4.31 SCORE 18.58 N0 53,809 Factor .743

    ODPs with a forced shuffle, but approximately a :10 wait in between shoes:

    DI 4.91 SCORE 24.14 N0 41,427 Factor .966

    ODPs with a forced shuffle, but no wait time in between shoes (fantasy world, probably impossible real world):

    DI 6.83 SCORE 46.62 N0 21,453 Factor 1.864

    I used a :10 wait to be conservative, but it has been my experience that in the casinos I play on Friday and Saturday afternoons and evenings it is probably closer to :05, hence my conclusion that your time has value and it is more valuable if you use ODPs to get out of questionable shoes.
    How many decks and what are the rules? Thanks for posting this.

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