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    I think that the comment by RCJH re: Sharky's reaction is on point.
    Let's say you are playing BJ at a $5 to $500 table. You want to put
    the pit critter at ease. You're aware that your bet-spread will be
    scrutinized. You decide to spread $20 to $100 because the table
    conditions are very good. So is your skill level. You very much want
    to preserve the "welcome mat." You do not need to bet $100 and have
    Table Max" called out. Bet 1/2 of the table max. You bet $50. What is
    the cost to you? The house edge varies, but assuming a double deck
    H17 RSA game, it is taken to be 0.35%; meaning that your (long-term)
    "cost" is $0.70. That is a reasonable price to pay, as your winning the
    hand will be a welcome event, and even losing the hand will give you the
    "green light' to spread from $10 to $50 without heat - at least for awhile.
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    This happened to me last night. Neutral or negative shoes for 90 minutes. A shoe finally got good with a few hands left. I was betting the minimum and went to three and then four units. I didn’t back off the bets because I waited all night and was leaving after anyway. I started getting looks from the pit. So, it’s very possible to get the attention of the pit for ramping bets up quickly. I would take your chips and take a break after those shoes. Take the heat off you.

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    During one of my backoffs in the past I was told they noticed what I was doing because I would ramp bets up very quickly. Since then I don’t ever bump up more than a parlay or reduce a bet by more than half on the next hand.

    If I’m playing a shoe and the count skyrockets at the end, as much as it hurts to not bet the farm I just stick to the not more than a parlay strategy. The exception is if I announce I’m leaving and want to play a big bet as my last hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinnyBJplayer View Post
    z
    I think that the comment by RCJH re: Sharky's reaction is on point.
    ....You want to put....the pit critter at ease. You're aware that your bet-spread will be
    scrutinized. ...z
    z
    ...and what part of the OP's comment of "zero heat" do you not understand???....go ahead...change the rules to suit

    that's the problem w/ commenting here....the reading comprehension is really pathetic...folks don't know the difference between "and", and "or", either (someone foolishly commenting that you need >25% pen AND LS to play 8D???....I never heard anything so absurd, from someone I had respected, no less)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharky View Post
    ...and what part of the OP's comment of "zero heat" do you not understand???....go ahead...change the rules to suit

    that's the problem w/ commenting here....the reading comprehension is really pathetic...folks don't know the difference between "and", and "or", either (someone foolishly commenting that you need >25% pen AND LS to play 8D???....I never heard anything so absurd, from someone I had respected, no less)
    Please just let them think that.

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    ZeeBabar's babble:


    "A professional will bet optimally, which means betting the max according to his BR and ROR. It does not mean betting all the money you have on you.


    A recreational player would consider what would be tolerable if he lost the last two hand also. Pros bet for maximum dollar value. Recreational players factor in how they would feel if they won or lost. They dont want to take home with them a miserable mood that would affect the rest of the evening, still be able to give to family. I would risk enough to get back to even, consider it a wash if I win and just a little worse off if I lose, live to play another day."

    This is wrong in too many ways for me to list.
    "Betting Optimally" will severely curtail your future opportunities.
    The part about "miserable mood" is absurdly ill-advised.
    The concept of "Maximum Value" is ill-conceived.
    The beginner needs to learn about bankroll requirements,
    variance, "Risk Aversion" and related issues e.g. "Risk of Ruin."

    Now I understand why ZeeBabar is an object of derision on this website.

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    i think if you just get one of those runs where you get nuetral and negative counts for a while it's best just to leave
    it looks really weird if you just never raise your bet for an hour then all of the sudden start going crazy

    i mean if you're leaving anyway , you're unrated, you aren't going back to this casino for a while then who cares. if you're not in slash and burn mode then it's a different story.

    i notice i get way more attention when i get a long run of no good count, then up my bets, than i do when i get more frequent good counts and up my bets

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitthat16 View Post
    I don’t ever bump up more than a parlay or reduce a bet by more than half on the next hand.
    Perfectly strategic. This has been championed in the past in "Blackjack for Blood"

    A great book and a fine method to generate longevity, with lowered variance - at a reasonable cost in e.v.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stopgambling View Post
    THE MORE ADVANCED MOVE IS GET TO KNOW THE PLACE FIRST THEN ACT ACCORDINGLY.

    Amen brother!
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    i think if you just get one of those runs where you get nuetral and negative counts for a while it's best just to leave
    it looks really weird if you just never raise your bet for an hour then all of the sudden start going crazy

    I don't know, I once played at a store and had a session like that where I flat bet minimum for half an hour or whatever and decided I would be stealthy and just leave. (Wasn't my first session there).

    Got backed off on my next return visit before I could play a hand. So I say get the EV in when you can, you never know what will happen tomorrow.

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