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    Win but cannot hang on to winnings online

    I have been playing Blackjack for the last year online.. Been a casual player for over 20 years and know the rules

    For the past month I have been going on some crazy streaks

    $300 to $13750 5-6 hours in 2 days

    $200 to $11700 5-6 hours in 3 days

    $3000 to $9750 2 hours

    $155 to $3100 30 mins

    Lots of breaks in between

    I have an unorthodox way of playing betting behind a hand that has been losing, jumping onto tables when the dealer is hot and mix up the card sequence and I will stay on the spot if it continues to win..
    I find when I play 1 on 1 with the dealer I tend to lose and usually stay away from this
    I normally start with $25-50 bets and work my way up to $250-$500

    I find I feel more comfortable playing when I am betting with house money

    I found 2 sites where they will withdraw your money within hours or you can lock in the withdrawal and cannot reverse it..
    This is critical for me as I tend to want to play when money is sitting there in the account..

    I know all of you will disagree on what I am doing but if I am winning at this rate and very quickly to just need to learn how to keep it

    Now with these new sites I withdraw on the go.. For example when I reach say $4000 I will withdrawal $2000 and keep $2000 to play and then keep on withdrawing $1000-2000 at a time until I have a bad round and lose the cash that is in play.. then i will hit the "take a break for a week" button after you adjust your deposit limit for the week that will not exceed the amount you previously won.. So basically you will be playing with house money for the next few sessions hoping to hit another streak.. so while your #1 account is on a week break you move on to account #2..

    I have to do this because I am like most people who like to chase.. Not chasing my debts but trying to chase your peak

    I cannot keep my composure when I have a bad beat when losing multiple hands.. and I start playing larger and lose back 5 times faster then when I won. Don't know why my mind acts on his own and wants to win what I just lost immediately. Its almost like being bipolar when I am winning and losing.. Winning I am sky high with so much confidence and doing everything right.. Losing I am like a nervous wreck... Maybe gambling is not for me if I am like this

    I wish I can have the discipline to money manage and not have to keep withdrawing but that's the only way for me.. So withdrawing on the go will avoid me going on a long streak to lose everything back..

    I know you all thinking this wont work long term but I think it will as long as I stick to the plan

    Any thoughts are welcomed..

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    First thought was; you cant even verify the integrity of the online BJ game. Heck there could be cards missing and you wouldn't even know. Let alone not being able to cash out if they freeze your account for w/e reason.

    Second thought, what the hell did I just read... Bro you're gonna lose all your money and more at this rate. Just stop.

    You've been on this site since Jan. In those few months, you should've read enough to educate yourself.

    PS- deposit/withdrawal "doomswitch" isn't a thing. which was one of your strategies. though I've always joked about it to be fair.

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    By the sounds of it you really don't know what you're doing though you're convincing yourself you do. You have many indicators of being a ploppy but the best for me is this statement 'jumping onto tables when the dealer is hot'. There is no such thing a priori.
    You've been very lucky and if you want to keep your winnings, stop right now and learn blackjack properly.

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    You are a regular gambler (nothing wrong with that) but this is a forum full of mostly card counters.

    Everyone here will probably agree with me when I say this, but your patterns and bet progressions will not work.

    What you are experiencing is the house edge pulling your results down. There is no way to "keep your winnings" mathematically or tactically. (Besides discontinued play)

    Most people believe that means that you shouldn't be winning...but that is not true. Even against the house edge players win, but as you very well know you lose it all back soon enough. The longer you play this game in this manner the more you will lose.

    You either need to accept this and continue playing for fun without being upset about your results and losing money or....

    Quit playing.....at least until you learn to play at an advantage.

    Sorry bud might not be what you wanna heat, but its the mathematical truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obi-wan21 View Post
    You are a regular gambler (nothing wrong with that)
    Yes, there is something wrong with that.

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    It's always enjoyable when someone reads the forum name "blackjack", takes it at face value, and before reading anything else, drops a post like this. Even better are responses like obi-wan's. Thoughtful and helpful, no shaming. Hopefully newmarket see's the value.

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    Best way to keep your winnings is to stop playing now. The more you play, the more likely you are to lose your money (there's no such thing as "house" money BTW).

    But it sounds like you won't hear this advice; thank you in advance for keeping the casino industry flush with cash for the rest of us to skim from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Yes, there is something wrong with that.
    At its core I dont think everyone who gambles is doing such a bad thing. People spend way more on other pointless and destructive forms of entertainment. I think the problem begins when people:

    1. believe they can win or expect to
    2. are being irresponsible.

    There is an old ploppy couple I see around one of my stores. Judging by the kinds of bets they throw around, they are well off. The husband likes to play with me because I "do crazy shit and I'm fun to watch". I once saved his all-in bet because I hit a 13 vs 3. And caught a 7...the dealer had a ten in the hole and busted on the next ten. Lucky I know, but still...

    He's here for a night of entertainment with his wife who gets all dolled up for the occasion. I often see them at the bar or dancing to the weekend band. He has also explained to me how they both withdraw their limit in cash before hand and leave their debit cards at home. It's all just fun for them. And I'm sure for a fraction of their net wealth.

    Contrarily, I know there is also tons of players who are throwing their rent money away on the first of every month.

    The problem isn't gambling itself, the problem is people being irresponsible and have delusional thoughts about how things will go.

    How many APs have you heard say they have rarely or never gone into a casino before learning to have an edge.
    APs are a different breed. APs obviously believe gambling is dumb or they wouldn't care to be winning players. At the end of the day it's other gamblers dumb or smart who give the casinos money that they can then give to us.

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    Obi - I agree with most of what you said. However, you have no way to know your ploppy acquaintance is well off. Just as most people don't have adequate retirement savings (just read an article that stated 70% of people depend on Social security for half their expenses in retirement), most people gamble irresponsibly. Sure, a night of "entertainment" at the casino can be no big deal, but it often isn't.

    Casinos do everything they can to bleed people dry. With April 15 just passed, it reminded me of the Station casinos' (mostly former due to EFT now) practice of offering people a 5 or 10% premium (up to a limit) to cash their tax refund checks at the casino. What a despicable practice!
    Last edited by 21forme; 04-21-2019 at 06:05 AM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Obi - I agree with most of what you said. However, you have no way to know your ploppy acquaintance is well off.....
    ....Casinos do everything they can to bleed people dry.
    Yea I suppose you are correct in that.

    As for the casinos, I whole heartedly agree that they are horrible immoral businesses. Specifically in the fact that they are constantly proposing that people win. All the ads I see are all people jumping and cheering like they just won.

    They are directly praying on the portion of the population that is of lesser intelligence or education and most likely less financially stable by "showing" them an easy way to riches.

    Have you read this one?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/business...asinos/375691/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obi-wan21 View Post
    I'm getting a 404 error

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    I'm getting a 404 error
    https://www.theatlantic.com/business...asinos/375691/

    Is that one better?

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    Yes and I've seen that article before.

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