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    betting spread

    Hi guys

    Im playing 8 decks, H17, Das sr game.
    Most of my play is backcount, $25 a unite

    I purchased cvcx program, and im really trying to figure out a perfect betting spread, but i just dont feel comfortable with betting spread i make, my bank roll is 20k, first i dont want go over casino tolerate level since there is only one casino near my house. Second i want risk of ruin under 5% but lower if better. if any pros could recommand me a good betting spread

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    We need the penetration of your game and your count and the minimum bet .What do you think you can get away with in terms of max bet? actually since you have CVCX , its should give you a very good game plan ( spread)

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    If you don't feel comfortable with the bet spread you have, then simply reduce ROR until you are comfortable.

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    For playing an 8 deck game with 2.5 cut off and minimum bet of $25, is it even possible to have an ROR of under 5% with just a $20k bankroll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    For playing an 8 deck game with 2.5 cut off and minimum bet of $25, is it even possible to have an ROR of under 5% with just a $20k bankroll?
    I back count most of time, if i run cvcx correctly, it reduce ror alot. Also what i dont understand is does penetration matters if you back count? I start count in the middle of shoe most of time. Thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by stopgambling View Post
    We need the penetration of your game and your count and the minimum bet .What do you think you can get away with in terms of max bet? actually since you have CVCX , its should give you a very good game plan ( spread)
    The pen is one deck. The minimum is $25. Also the max bet i think is depends on casino tolerate level and ror. I have the cvcx, but im kind consider about heat too since there is only one casino around me. Also i bought cvcx, but im not sure if the result it give me is right


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    Post your CVCX sim here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by abc4000 View Post
    I back count most of time, if i run cvcx correctly, it reduce ror alot. Also what i dont understand is does penetration matters if you back count? I start count in the middle of shoe most of time. Thanks


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    Right now you need to learn about and understand the basic fundamentals of how and why card counting works before you start using the software cvcx.
    Last edited by BoSox; 04-11-2019 at 04:02 AM.

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    Here is the sim

    Am i do it right as back count result. I set it up as in +1 leave -1

    As the result it comes to $96/hr win and ror 3.2

    Can anyone tell me what the next column "std dev" for?

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    Std dev (standard deviation) is used to calculate SCORE, risk of ruin, optimal bets, swings, etc. Since CVCX performs these calculations for you, you don't really need the number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abc4000 View Post
    I back count most of time, if i run cvcx correctly, it reduce ror alot. Also what i dont understand is does penetration matters if you back count? I start count in the middle of shoe most of time. Thanks


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    Pen is one of the top priorities that card counters look for in game selection. You have 88% pen in your game which you should be very happy about. Unfortunately, you turned what appears to be a real good game into shambles. Most of the time you do not start counting cards until half the shoe is gone. That is 50% of the shoe you did not count, 12% of the cards are behind the cut card, which you also are not counting, equaling 62% of the cards are not being counted by you. In your cvcx chart instead of putting 7 decks, and 88% pen put in 3 decks and 37% pen to correctly reflect what you are currently doing. See what kind of results you then receive.

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    No. If there are 8 decks, you must specify 8 decks. And all the decks are counted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    No. If there are 8 decks, you must specify 8 decks. And all the decks are counted.
    Norm, I am referring to the line below the rules line.

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