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    Trip Bankroll ROR v Total Bankroll ROR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wave View Post
    When using Norm's awesome CV software to calulate ROR for my trip bank (Double-Barrier; End Result/Goal and Number of Hands), I get an ROR of 4.02 percent. If I use my total bankroll with the same goal, I get an ROR of 1.19 percent. Am I using the software, and understanding the concept of ROR, properly and playing at an acceptable ROR...or am I in left field and/or over betting or underbetting?
    Why would it be surprising to you that, if you use a larger bankroll, you will have a smaller ROR?

    Don

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    You're doing it right, as long as you're happy with your hourly EV that's associated with your betting scheme.

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    Thats good you want to have a Good handle on riSk ,
    So you can be proficient at riding the Big and small Waves ...
    " Long.E.V.ity"

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    What dictates how much of your total BR you take for a trip bankroll or a session bank roll? Would it be your spread and number of max bets or would it be the size of your BR, the number of decks or what?

    Admittedly, I am not very good and I have personality issues. On a 20 hour (3-4 day trip) to Las Vegas, I have at times taken $5k, lost more than half the first session and then turned conservative the rest of my trip. I have taken $10k, but again, I did not play out the whole $10k, I stopped when I had lost $6k because my confidence was shot and I was walking in expecting to lose. Course, there have been times when I have taken $5k, returned home with $8k or more. Here again, when I am up, I often tend to try and preserve my winning trip, a big mistake of course. My max bet is usually $175.

    A life long struggle for the legal tender has left harsh mareks on my personality that I still struggle with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    What dictates how much of your total BR you take for a trip bankroll or a session bank roll? Would it be your spread and number of max bets or would it be the size of your BR, the number of decks or what?
    This is difficult to answer for you, personally, because you don't play properly or rationally. You play emotionally, so the numbers don't much matter, since you don't respect them.

    But, for a rational player, you enunciate the game and spread that you will most likely play on your trip, the number of hours you plan to play, and the trip ROR that you are comfortable with. Then, you bring the amount of money that corresponds to that ROR. See BJA3, pp. 132-134, if your copy isn't still in the motel room.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    This is difficult to answer for you, personally, because you don't play properly or rationally. You play emotionally, so the numbers don't much matter, since you don't respect them.

    But, for a rational player, you enunciate the game and spread that you will most likely play on your trip, the number of hours you plan to play, and the trip ROR that you are comfortable with. Then, you bring the amount of money that corresponds to that ROR. See BJA3, pp. 132-134, if your copy isn't still in the motel room.

    Don
    Talk about a truthful answer! ZeeBabar, imagine you did not have to go and get barred from a boot camp to get the information either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    This is difficult to answer for you, personally, because you don't play properly or rationally. You play emotionally, so the numbers don't much matter, since you don't respect them.

    But, for a rational player, you enunciate the game and spread that you will most likely play on your trip, the number of hours you plan to play, and the trip ROR that you are comfortable with. Then, you bring the amount of money that corresponds to that ROR. See BJA3, pp. 132-134, if your copy isn't still in the motel room.

    Don
    Thanks, Don. I did get a second BJA3, read the pages you mentioned. Your book is still hard for me because it contains Math, so many math formulas. I mean, I am too dumb to put in the $$ and put in the right figures. I have no idea how to work a formula such as r=N((-B-ev)/sd) + e......x N((-B+ev0/sd) etc. but I think I got the gist and will take more funds. I am also working on not playing so emotionally. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Talk about a truthful answer! ZeeBabar, imagine you did not have to go and get barred from a boot camp to get the information either.
    One doesn't need to spend $3K on a boot camp. Just buy Norm's software. It's easy to plug in the numbers and get the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Thanks, Don. I did get a second BJA3, read the pages you mentioned. Your book is still hard for me because it contains Math, so many math formulas. I mean, I am too dumb to put in the $$ and put in the right figures. I have no idea how to work a formula such as r=N((-B-ev)/sd) + e......x N((-B+ev0/sd) etc. but I think I got the gist and will take more funds. I am also working on not playing so emotionally. Thanks.
    You don't need to know any math at all. Just go above to BJ Resources, then Risk in the brown section, then choose the second Launch button for the Trip ROR formula. Can't be m ore spoon-fed than that!

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    You don't need to know any math at all. Just go above to BJ Resources, then Risk in the brown section, then choose the second Launch button for the Trip ROR formula. Can't be m ore spoon-fed than that!

    Don
    Thanks, going to try it now.

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    It does not seem to work

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    It does not seem to work
    It works. Describe your problem.

    Don

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