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## can someone calculate the HE with these uncommon rule?

i was encountered with this very uncommon rule while i was traveling east asia.

6D
S17
DAS
Double on any 2 cards
Split twice(so you can only have 3 hands total)
No resplitting aces.
Spades and hearts BJ gets 2 to 1 instead of 3 to 2 (like spade ace + spade J or heart ace + heart K)
Late surrender

i thought it was off the top edge when i first saw the bj rule, but then there were some disadvantages on those splitting part. what is the exact HE on this game?  Reply With Quote

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deviru,

Using Table C1 of Schlesinger's BJA3, without the BJ bonus I calculate the game's EV to be -0.546% + 0.134% = -0.412%.

Now 1 of 16 BJ's are in spades, and 1 of 16 BJ's are in hearts, so in total you get a bonus of 0.5 units on 1 of 8 BJ's. If you got 2:1 on ALL BJ's, that would be worth +2.266%, so to get it on one-eighth of them is worth +0.283%.

Therefore, the EV for the game is -0.412% + 0.283% = -0.129%.

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand  Reply With Quote

3. Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No Originally Posted by Dog Hand deviru,

Using Table C1 of Schlesinger's BJA3, without the BJ bonus I calculate the game's EV to be -0.546% + 0.134% = -0.412%.

Now 1 of 16 BJ's are in spades, and 1 of 16 BJ's are in hearts, so in total you get a bonus of 0.5 units on 1 of 8 BJ's. If you got 2:1 on ALL BJ's, that would be worth +2.266%, so to get it on one-eighth of them is worth +0.283%.

Therefore, the EV for the game is -0.412% + 0.283% = -0.129%.

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand
This casino is too generous. PA rules is already very good. Then it added huge bonus.  Reply With Quote

4. Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No Originally Posted by Dog Hand deviru,

Using Table C1 of Schlesinger's BJA3, without the BJ bonus I calculate the game's EV to be -0.546% + 0.134% = -0.412%.

Now 1 of 16 BJ's are in spades, and 1 of 16 BJ's are in hearts, so in total you get a bonus of 0.5 units on 1 of 8 BJ's. If you got 2:1 on ALL BJ's, that would be worth +2.266%, so to get it on one-eighth of them is worth +0.283%.

Therefore, the EV for the game is -0.412% + 0.283% = -0.129%.

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand
Probability of player's BJ beat dealer's hand = 2304/48516 - (2304/48516) * (2185/47895) = 0.0453230, additional units = 0.5/8, so this special rules worth = 0.0453230 x 0.5/8 = +0.28327%  Reply With Quote

5. Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No Originally Posted by Dog Hand deviru,

Using Table C1 of Schlesinger's BJA3, without the BJ bonus I calculate the game's EV to be -0.546% + 0.134% = -0.412%.

Now 1 of 16 BJ's are in spades, and 1 of 16 BJ's are in hearts, so in total you get a bonus of 0.5 units on 1 of 8 BJ's. If you got 2:1 on ALL BJ's, that would be worth +2.266%, so to get it on one-eighth of them is worth +0.283%.

Therefore, the EV for the game is -0.412% + 0.283% = -0.129%.

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand
Oops! I missed the Late Surrender in the original post. LS is worth +0.07%, so the EV for the game is -0.129% + 0.07% = -0.059%.

My sincere apologies to deviru.

Mea culpa

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6. Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No Originally Posted by James989 Probability of player's BJ beat dealer's hand = 2304/48516 - (2304/48516) * (2185/47895) = 0.0453230, additional units = 0.5/8, so this special rules worth = 0.0453230 x 0.5/8 = +0.28327%
James989,

That value is in excellent agreement with the +0.283% I gave in my post.

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Thank you all for the answers!  Reply With Quote

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I get 0.36226% without taking into account the suited blackjacks. Where did you say this game was?  Reply With Quote

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