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    can someone calculate the HE with these uncommon rule?

    i was encountered with this very uncommon rule while i was traveling east asia.

    6D
    S17
    DAS
    Double on any 2 cards
    Split twice(so you can only have 3 hands total)
    No resplitting aces.
    Spades and hearts BJ gets 2 to 1 instead of 3 to 2 (like spade ace + spade J or heart ace + heart K)
    Late surrender

    i thought it was off the top edge when i first saw the bj rule, but then there were some disadvantages on those splitting part. what is the exact HE on this game?

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    deviru,

    Using Table C1 of Schlesinger's BJA3, without the BJ bonus I calculate the game's EV to be -0.546% + 0.134% = -0.412%.

    Now 1 of 16 BJ's are in spades, and 1 of 16 BJ's are in hearts, so in total you get a bonus of 0.5 units on 1 of 8 BJ's. If you got 2:1 on ALL BJ's, that would be worth +2.266%, so to get it on one-eighth of them is worth +0.283%.

    Therefore, the EV for the game is -0.412% + 0.283% = -0.129%.

    Hope this helps!

    Dog Hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Hand View Post
    deviru,

    Using Table C1 of Schlesinger's BJA3, without the BJ bonus I calculate the game's EV to be -0.546% + 0.134% = -0.412%.

    Now 1 of 16 BJ's are in spades, and 1 of 16 BJ's are in hearts, so in total you get a bonus of 0.5 units on 1 of 8 BJ's. If you got 2:1 on ALL BJ's, that would be worth +2.266%, so to get it on one-eighth of them is worth +0.283%.

    Therefore, the EV for the game is -0.412% + 0.283% = -0.129%.

    Hope this helps!

    Dog Hand
    This casino is too generous. PA rules is already very good. Then it added huge bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Hand View Post
    deviru,

    Using Table C1 of Schlesinger's BJA3, without the BJ bonus I calculate the game's EV to be -0.546% + 0.134% = -0.412%.

    Now 1 of 16 BJ's are in spades, and 1 of 16 BJ's are in hearts, so in total you get a bonus of 0.5 units on 1 of 8 BJ's. If you got 2:1 on ALL BJ's, that would be worth +2.266%, so to get it on one-eighth of them is worth +0.283%.

    Therefore, the EV for the game is -0.412% + 0.283% = -0.129%.

    Hope this helps!

    Dog Hand
    Probability of player's BJ beat dealer's hand = 2304/48516 - (2304/48516) * (2185/47895) = 0.0453230, additional units = 0.5/8, so this special rules worth = 0.0453230 x 0.5/8 = +0.28327%
    Last edited by James989; 03-17-2019 at 09:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Hand View Post
    deviru,

    Using Table C1 of Schlesinger's BJA3, without the BJ bonus I calculate the game's EV to be -0.546% + 0.134% = -0.412%.

    Now 1 of 16 BJ's are in spades, and 1 of 16 BJ's are in hearts, so in total you get a bonus of 0.5 units on 1 of 8 BJ's. If you got 2:1 on ALL BJ's, that would be worth +2.266%, so to get it on one-eighth of them is worth +0.283%.

    Therefore, the EV for the game is -0.412% + 0.283% = -0.129%.

    Hope this helps!

    Dog Hand
    Oops! I missed the Late Surrender in the original post. LS is worth +0.07%, so the EV for the game is -0.129% + 0.07% = -0.059%.

    My sincere apologies to deviru.

    Mea culpa

    Dog Hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by James989 View Post
    Probability of player's BJ beat dealer's hand = 2304/48516 - (2304/48516) * (2185/47895) = 0.0453230, additional units = 0.5/8, so this special rules worth = 0.0453230 x 0.5/8 = +0.28327%
    James989,

    That value is in excellent agreement with the +0.283% I gave in my post.

    Dog Hand

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    Thank you all for the answers!

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    I get 0.36226% without taking into account the suited blackjacks. Where did you say this game was?

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