# Thread: can someone calculate the HE with these uncommon rule?

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## can someone calculate the HE with these uncommon rule?

i was encountered with this very uncommon rule while i was traveling east asia.

6D
S17
DAS
Double on any 2 cards
Split twice(so you can only have 3 hands total)
No resplitting aces.
Spades and hearts BJ gets 2 to 1 instead of 3 to 2 (like spade ace + spade J or heart ace + heart K)
Late surrender

i thought it was off the top edge when i first saw the bj rule, but then there were some disadvantages on those splitting part. what is the exact HE on this game?

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deviru,

Using Table C1 of Schlesinger's BJA3, without the BJ bonus I calculate the game's EV to be -0.546% + 0.134% = -0.412%.

Now 1 of 16 BJ's are in spades, and 1 of 16 BJ's are in hearts, so in total you get a bonus of 0.5 units on 1 of 8 BJ's. If you got 2:1 on ALL BJ's, that would be worth +2.266%, so to get it on one-eighth of them is worth +0.283%.

Therefore, the EV for the game is -0.412% + 0.283% = -0.129%.

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand

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Originally Posted by Dog Hand
deviru,

Using Table C1 of Schlesinger's BJA3, without the BJ bonus I calculate the game's EV to be -0.546% + 0.134% = -0.412%.

Now 1 of 16 BJ's are in spades, and 1 of 16 BJ's are in hearts, so in total you get a bonus of 0.5 units on 1 of 8 BJ's. If you got 2:1 on ALL BJ's, that would be worth +2.266%, so to get it on one-eighth of them is worth +0.283%.

Therefore, the EV for the game is -0.412% + 0.283% = -0.129%.

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand
This casino is too generous. PA rules is already very good. Then it added huge bonus.

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Originally Posted by Dog Hand
deviru,

Using Table C1 of Schlesinger's BJA3, without the BJ bonus I calculate the game's EV to be -0.546% + 0.134% = -0.412%.

Now 1 of 16 BJ's are in spades, and 1 of 16 BJ's are in hearts, so in total you get a bonus of 0.5 units on 1 of 8 BJ's. If you got 2:1 on ALL BJ's, that would be worth +2.266%, so to get it on one-eighth of them is worth +0.283%.

Therefore, the EV for the game is -0.412% + 0.283% = -0.129%.

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand
Probability of player's BJ beat dealer's hand = 2304/48516 - (2304/48516) * (2185/47895) = 0.0453230, additional units = 0.5/8, so this special rules worth = 0.0453230 x 0.5/8 = +0.28327%

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Originally Posted by Dog Hand
deviru,

Using Table C1 of Schlesinger's BJA3, without the BJ bonus I calculate the game's EV to be -0.546% + 0.134% = -0.412%.

Now 1 of 16 BJ's are in spades, and 1 of 16 BJ's are in hearts, so in total you get a bonus of 0.5 units on 1 of 8 BJ's. If you got 2:1 on ALL BJ's, that would be worth +2.266%, so to get it on one-eighth of them is worth +0.283%.

Therefore, the EV for the game is -0.412% + 0.283% = -0.129%.

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand
Oops! I missed the Late Surrender in the original post. LS is worth +0.07%, so the EV for the game is -0.129% + 0.07% = -0.059%.

My sincere apologies to deviru.

Mea culpa

Dog Hand

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Originally Posted by James989
Probability of player's BJ beat dealer's hand = 2304/48516 - (2304/48516) * (2185/47895) = 0.0453230, additional units = 0.5/8, so this special rules worth = 0.0453230 x 0.5/8 = +0.28327%
James989,

That value is in excellent agreement with the +0.283% I gave in my post.

Dog Hand

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Thank you all for the answers!

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I get 0.36226% without taking into account the suited blackjacks. Where did you say this game was?

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