See the top rated post in this thread. Click here

Results 1 to 8 of 8

Thread: can someone calculate the HE with these uncommon rule?

  1. #1


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No

    can someone calculate the HE with these uncommon rule?

    i was encountered with this very uncommon rule while i was traveling east asia.

    6D
    S17
    DAS
    Double on any 2 cards
    Split twice(so you can only have 3 hands total)
    No resplitting aces.
    Spades and hearts BJ gets 2 to 1 instead of 3 to 2 (like spade ace + spade J or heart ace + heart K)
    Late surrender

    i thought it was off the top edge when i first saw the bj rule, but then there were some disadvantages on those splitting part. what is the exact HE on this game?

  2. #2


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    deviru,

    Using Table C1 of Schlesinger's BJA3, without the BJ bonus I calculate the game's EV to be -0.546% + 0.134% = -0.412%.

    Now 1 of 16 BJ's are in spades, and 1 of 16 BJ's are in hearts, so in total you get a bonus of 0.5 units on 1 of 8 BJ's. If you got 2:1 on ALL BJ's, that would be worth +2.266%, so to get it on one-eighth of them is worth +0.283%.

    Therefore, the EV for the game is -0.412% + 0.283% = -0.129%.

    Hope this helps!

    Dog Hand

  3. #3


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Hand View Post
    deviru,

    Using Table C1 of Schlesinger's BJA3, without the BJ bonus I calculate the game's EV to be -0.546% + 0.134% = -0.412%.

    Now 1 of 16 BJ's are in spades, and 1 of 16 BJ's are in hearts, so in total you get a bonus of 0.5 units on 1 of 8 BJ's. If you got 2:1 on ALL BJ's, that would be worth +2.266%, so to get it on one-eighth of them is worth +0.283%.

    Therefore, the EV for the game is -0.412% + 0.283% = -0.129%.

    Hope this helps!

    Dog Hand
    This casino is too generous. PA rules is already very good. Then it added huge bonus.

  4. #4


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Hand View Post
    deviru,

    Using Table C1 of Schlesinger's BJA3, without the BJ bonus I calculate the game's EV to be -0.546% + 0.134% = -0.412%.

    Now 1 of 16 BJ's are in spades, and 1 of 16 BJ's are in hearts, so in total you get a bonus of 0.5 units on 1 of 8 BJ's. If you got 2:1 on ALL BJ's, that would be worth +2.266%, so to get it on one-eighth of them is worth +0.283%.

    Therefore, the EV for the game is -0.412% + 0.283% = -0.129%.

    Hope this helps!

    Dog Hand
    Probability of player's BJ beat dealer's hand = 2304/48516 - (2304/48516) * (2185/47895) = 0.0453230, additional units = 0.5/8, so this special rules worth = 0.0453230 x 0.5/8 = +0.28327%
    Last edited by James989; 03-17-2019 at 09:24 AM.

  5. #5


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Hand View Post
    deviru,

    Using Table C1 of Schlesinger's BJA3, without the BJ bonus I calculate the game's EV to be -0.546% + 0.134% = -0.412%.

    Now 1 of 16 BJ's are in spades, and 1 of 16 BJ's are in hearts, so in total you get a bonus of 0.5 units on 1 of 8 BJ's. If you got 2:1 on ALL BJ's, that would be worth +2.266%, so to get it on one-eighth of them is worth +0.283%.

    Therefore, the EV for the game is -0.412% + 0.283% = -0.129%.

    Hope this helps!

    Dog Hand
    Oops! I missed the Late Surrender in the original post. LS is worth +0.07%, so the EV for the game is -0.129% + 0.07% = -0.059%.

    My sincere apologies to deviru.

    Mea culpa

    Dog Hand

  6. #6


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by James989 View Post
    Probability of player's BJ beat dealer's hand = 2304/48516 - (2304/48516) * (2185/47895) = 0.0453230, additional units = 0.5/8, so this special rules worth = 0.0453230 x 0.5/8 = +0.28327%
    James989,

    That value is in excellent agreement with the +0.283% I gave in my post.

    Dog Hand

  7. #7


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Thank you all for the answers!

  8. #8


    1 out of 1 members found this post helpful. Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    I get 0.36226% without taking into account the suited blackjacks. Where did you say this game was?

Similar Threads

  1. Please help me calculate my EV
    By gdn in forum General Blackjack Forum
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 01-03-2016, 11:04 PM
  2. how calculate BE
    By BPrenewable in forum General Blackjack Forum
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 04-15-2015, 02:02 AM
  3. How to calculate EV
    By IronOx in forum General Blackjack Forum
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 03-12-2014, 01:02 PM
  4. Replies: 4
    Last Post: 09-11-2007, 12:19 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

About Blackjack: The Forum

BJTF is an advantage player site based on the principles of comity. That is, civil and considerate behavior for the mutual benefit of all involved. The goal of advantage play is the legal extraction of funds from gaming establishments by gaining a mathematic advantage and developing the skills required to use that advantage. To maximize our success, it is important to understand that we are all on the same side. Personal conflicts simply get in the way of our goals.