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View Poll Results: Do You Play Blackjack With Players Card?

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  • Majority of Time Play Rated Under Real Name

    10 35.71%
  • Majority of Time Play Rated Under False Name

    2 7.14%
  • Never Play Rated Under Any Name

    14 50.00%
  • Need Those Comps Always Play Rated Under Some Name

    2 7.14%
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Thread: Players Card Survey

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    Players Card Survey

    The question is do you play rated with a players card the majority of the time when you play blackjack?

    I'm just trying to see if everybody does what is preached on this site. So here is another poll.

    PS. Answer the poll according to what you do now, and not what you did in the past.
    Last edited by Midwest Player; 02-22-2018 at 09:31 PM.

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    I play rated at 1 casino chain

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    I am not an advocate of playing rated except in well planned and controlled circumstances and very rarely having to do with blackjack.

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    I do not play rated, and I recommend new players who are playing red chips, do not as well as it will cost you money by remaining to play through more negative counts when you should have left a table five minutes sooner "freedom that a nonrated player has, vs drawing attention by asking for your card back" resulting in lower EV. Higher levels players should also play unrated not only for the same reasons as the red chip players but just might make the borderline difference between being allowed to continued play at all, sort of like a balancing act, by not being greedy, and trying to get every dime out of them, as the casino considers it extremely insulting when a player not only wins but expects to be wined and dined. Plus your name is too valuable to be spreading it around it is negative EV, and not worth the risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    I do not play rated, and I recommend new players who are playing red chips, do not as well as it will cost you money by remaining to play through more negative counts when you should have left a table five minutes sooner "freedom that a nonrated player has, vs drawing attention by asking for your card back" resulting in lower EV. Higher levels players should also play unrated not only for the same reasons as the red chip players but just might make the borderline difference between being allowed to continued play at all, sort of like a balancing act, by not being greedy, and trying to get every dime out of them, as the casino considers it extremely insulting when a player not only wins but expects to be wined and dined. Plus your name is too valuable to be spreading it around it is negative EV, and not worth the risk.
    First, a rated player can do the same thing an unrated player can do. There is no "asking a card back" because they dont take and keep it. Second, in local casinos in 1-3 casino towns, they will have idemntified and noted you even if they do not know your name so it really does not make a difference. Third, for a newbie playing red chips and still learning (and making mistakes), a card is a great way to establish yourself as a ploppy.

    After having played with a card for 4 years, my conclusion is that as you become good, your wins become more consistent, you reduce the use of the card but maintain it, perhaps in one chain. I will be in Las Vegas again soon (beginning of March) and my rooms are still comped. I will give that casino some play. Like, I refuse the card, if I have lost, I apologize, "find" the card and book a loss. I go on to its sister casinos and others and play unrated.

    The benefits are nothing to scoff at. Great comped meals, rooms, table play offers and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    First, a rated player can do the same thing an unrated player can do. There is no "asking a card back" because they dont take and keep it.
    Where I play they take the card and swipe you in and put the card in a box behind the discard tray by seat position. ZeeBabar do as you please, you want to play rated go right ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    That horse had long left the barn before I knew I had a choice. Im not sure one has a choice in some places. I remember being refused play because I didnt have ID.

    Im not sure I understand the big deal as long as your playing within casino tolerance. Lots of perks that add up over time. I think free rooms is the biggie at the higher quality casinos. Some come with spa access and message. But shows, fights, and sports extravaganzas for free are fun that I normally probably wouldn't have paid for out of pocket.

    With better planning, there was a time I could've lived rent, food, entertainment, and maybe even car free.
    In most of the casinos near me they are more like a club and require you to show ID at the door. So it's virtually impossible to get in without them knowing who you are etc.

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    Comp count at one place/chain, card count at others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    That horse had long left the barn before I knew I had a choice. Im not sure one has a choice in some places. I remember being refused play because I didnt have ID.
    Where did this happen? The only place I'm aware of that demands ID or a player card is Harrah's San Diego on its double decks. That onerous policy started only two or three years ago.
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    wow, i'm actually surprised that almost 50% of respondents so far play under their real name? In ok, i have to to avoid paying 0.50/cent ante per hand... but else where no one has ever seen my id.. However I do think having a players card will definitely improve playing length and tolerances so I will likely begin playing rated under a fake name. Isn't it better for my entry in OSN to have just a picture with no known ID, than have my real name with my picture?

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    I didn't participate in the poll. Haven't used a card in years. Any of my regular haunts can easily figure out info. Little worried about that. Figure some have. I'm likely on a short leash in a few joints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    I always think its laughable that people believe the casino won't know who they are because they never showed ID if they want that information. There are so many ways to get your identity. Many would just require casino footage to be reviewed. Did you drive there in a car registered to you or rented by you with real ID? Did you use an ATM or credit card on the premises? Did you get carded for your ace for alcohol or to be able to gamble? Then if they have connections with any insiders for places that use facial recognition software and get your name like DMV, banks, ATMs etc. The idea that your face is not connected to your name somewhere that can be searched with the right access code or by a hacker in this day and age is remote.
    Actually, some decent shit here. Don't use an inhouse ATM machine, don't use your credit card - try, if you can, not to use your own vehcle, and park it on premise. That is clearly impractical for some. Rental cars are nice.

    Also, rotation routes where u show your face on some semblance of an irregular schedule - if they really want to know, they will find out.

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    I play rated (under my real name) at my home store only because that ship already sailed (they know who I am). So I play very conservatively there and don't visit too often. Funny thing - I haven't received any comps from them in the last year or so other than a couple of player's points good for discounts at their lousy restaurants. But at least they haven't shown me the door yet (knock on wood).

    Outside of my home store, I never ever use a player's card.

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