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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbs6582 View Post
    But if you do get on a lucky streak again, and raise your bet to like $50,000/hand and happen to get an article written about your lucky streak in the Atlantic magazine, you have a good chance of getting voted into the BJ Hall of Fame. It’s happened before so it can happen again.
    If you think that all Don Johnson did was get lucky, you don't know the whole story.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    If you think that all Don Johnson did was get lucky, you don't know the whole story.

    Don
    No, of course I don’t know the whole story. But I do know Don Johnson did not win $15.1 million during this six month stretch, which is what you see reported. How do I know this? Because Don Johnson says this himself: “I don’t wear Kevlar”, he said “I do have some losses in between.” What Don does NOT tell us is how much he lost in between his three famous wins. Why does everybody ignore his losses during this time and only report on his winnings?

    We also know his more famous win at the Tropicana (where he won close to $6 million) he was playing alone and had an incredible lucky streak. This is reported many places. We also know he was not playing with his entourage during this time, and this is what he talks about in his interviews, as if this helped him with his wins.

    Why does Don get credit for his big wins, and people ignore his losses?

    One last point: I do get that Don Johnson had negotiated favorable rules and a 20% loss rebate (it’s all in the Atlantic magazine article). But this was nothing unique to Don Johnson. Since Atlantic City casinos were struggling during this time, many whales negotiated these terms. This obviously gave Don an advanatage and caused the casinos to stop giving out these big loss rebates. That’s cleaver, but I don’t see how that means he’s a bj expert.
    Last edited by Dbs6582; 02-07-2019 at 02:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCJH View Post
    True, but the house DOES have an edge.

    What you're doing is foolish, but sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.
    It's not foolish - he understands clearly what it will cost him to play this way in the long run and has decided that it's worth that amount to him for the entertainment. I can't disagree - $5 BS blackjack IS a lot of entertainment for your money assuming decent rules. He's a responsible, reasonable recreational gambler who is trading money (or at least EV) for entertainment. What in the world is wrong with that? If only APs gambled, there would be no casinos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbs6582 View Post
    Why does Don get credit for his big wins, and people ignore his losses?
    I'm guessing because the former were considerably greater than the latter.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    I'm guessing because the former were considerably greater than the latter.

    Don
    I get it. But it’s msileading to say Don took the casinos for $15 million in six months. It’s my understanding that’s what his plaque says at the BJ Hall of Fame. By Don’s own admission, he did not take the casinos for this much during that timeframe.

    If I only reported on my winning sessions and ignored my losing sessions, I could claim I’ve won millions from casinos too.

    My respect for you and what you’ve contributed to the blackjack community is on the highest order. I’ve got several of your books to make sure they’re always around when I need them to reference something. I like all your advice on these various sites. Thank you!

    But I do struggle with understanding how someone like Don Johnson got into the BJ Hall of fame. Does it just take a couple big lucky wins, taking advantage of loss rebates, and getting an article written about you in a popular magazine? I’ve done a lot of research on this and I’m as confused as ever.

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    Some people want and need the notoriety. Reality is, it's not a good thing. I stand by my comment on the HOF, the people behind it and casino it's located at. Free room and silly party are NOT worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShipTheCookies View Post
    Some people want and need the notoriety. Reality is, it's not a good thing. I stand by my comment on the HOF, the people behind it and casino it's located at. Free room and silly party are NOT worth it!
    What’s interesting about Don Johnson is that at first he didn’t want the notoriety for his wins. It was the casinos that made him famous. The casinos were the ones who showed the reporters (during their earning report) the receipts of Don Johnson’s wins. Obviously, they only showed receipts of Don’s wins. They didn’t show any receipts of Don’s losses. The casinos exploited Don’s big wins to their benefit.

    As we all know, casinos like to take pictures of the slot winners and post their picture in their casino, making people think any common folk can win at their casinos. Don is the slot poster for whales. It was only after the casinos made Don famous that he started talking about his wins.

    Btw, it’s in the casino’s interesting to celebrate and advertise a big win. This feeds into the fantasy people want to believe. What is that fantasy? That one person can “bring down the house”. The casinos got added publicity by the Hall of Fame group voting Don into their elite group. This was probably beyond what the casinos could have hoped for. A poppy having a lucky streak getting in the Hall of Fame.

    Casinos aren't dumb. They know how to exploit a big win. The amount of positive publicity casinos have gotten from Don’s big wins was far more valuable than any multimillion marketing campaign could have brought them. It’s been 7 years since Don’s big wins and the casinos are still reaping the rewards from it. They’re probably looking for their next Don Johnson.

    The perception that any Joe (or in this case Don) can be the next big winner is what drives Vegas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbs6582 View Post
    Casinos aren't dumb. They know how to exploit a big win.
    Casinos always posting winners. Some of them display a running billboards to show how much it pays out by the hour/day/week/month or YtD. But they have counter measures against AP/counters, sometimes in violence ways.
    At one of my local store there is a story about a big winner of a progressive jackpot of over million Dollars. Casino invited her family come back with hotel, food , limo gifts, and vacation trips, after about a week or so they gave all back and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbs6582 View Post
    But I do struggle with understanding how someone like Don Johnson got into the BJ Hall of fame.
    FWIW, I never voted for him, didn't feel he deserved to be in, and am not the least bit happy that he's in.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    FWIW, I never voted for him, didn't feel he deserved to be in, and am not the least bit happy that he's in.

    Don
    I respect that and I think you said that before. Not that you probably care, but my opinion of you went up a couple notches when I learned you didn’t vote for him.

    What were the others thinking? To put Don Johnson in the Hall with the truelly greats in BJ made no sense. Every time I hear Don give an interview, I’m shocked he’s in there.

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