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    What other game has a great edge

    Blackjack has -0. edge is there other games has a close edge.

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    What?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zbest1966 View Post
    Blackjack has -0. edge is there other games has a close edge.
    Craps, baccarat sidebet, poker....

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    If you include the odds, then craps (pass/come and don’t pass / don’t come) can have lower HE than many blackjack games. But that’s a stupid way to do math and don’t do that.

    Bacarat has a decently low house edge compared to other table games.

    But neither of those games can be AP’d, at least not from a card counting perspective in most cases. (Yes, I know there are cases where you can beat them through card counting or other methods.)

    Poker obviously can let the player have the advantage if you know how to play properly and you’re betting than the other players, enough to beat the rake.


    But, for the most part, blackjack is going to have the lowest house edge of any table game, usually.
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    You can gain an edge on carney games at times, it depends upon the dealer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCJH View Post
    You can gain an edge on carney games at times, it depends upon the dealer.
    Well put.

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    "if someone really wants to find out how to do this I would suggest paying one of these experts to train you" is that probitable to pay someone. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by drunk View Post
    there is what I would call an underground of AP machine players
    there are some who do it full time

    it's not easy to find out how to spot advantage plays on machines or to determine what the house's edge on the machine is and when and why it can become favorable to the player
    for some of them their math skills in order to do this are well above and beyond what is required of an AP in BJ

    if someone really wants to find out how to do this I would suggest paying one of these experts to train you
    otherwise I would consider it to be very difficult to acquire the necessary info beyond the very obvious stuff such as free play or comp mailings
    Mickeycrimm has done it. Very interesting life story. He posted his life story on BJ21 a while back and possibly other sites. He dropped out of high school and struggled with the math to figure out the odds. Once in a while he will talk about and explain vulturable machines on another form. He has posted some very nice pictures of all the casinos he visited many out in the sticks. Many of his recent pictures were at casinos I have played at.

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    The biggest edge of all games can be created with roulette if you're a capable enough tracker.....There is no other game that comes close.....

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    Gambling with an edge guest Mickey Crimm.

    Last edited by Midwest Player; 01-15-2019 at 02:53 PM.

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    Years ago I nominated mickey crimm for a post of the month on Wongs site. He did not win but I remember it was a damn good post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ummagumma View Post
    The biggest edge of all games can be created with roulette if you're a capable enough tracker.....There is no other game that comes close.....
    how about your DOUBLE DOWN a single card online blackjack game ? Do you mind to share what online casino(or what games provider, MG,PT . . . ) offer such game ?

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