Adding AA78mTc side count to High Low

**bjanalyst** · 01-01-2019, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Freightman

Before you do, 3 said
“I don't keep track of the count with chips either. But adding a chip to any stack to keep a side count is so obvious that you can't hide it”

More reasons to utilize the regaled FBM ASC.

I am not sure how the casino would prove you are using your chips to count. You are keeping only the AA89mTc for example, which is not the HL so if they tried to say you were using your chips to count the HL you could easily show that is not the case. You could also say you are using the chips to see how many players won or lost and anything else. The casino could not prove what you were doing with the chips other than playing with them and also you update the AA89mTc only after all cards are on the board and before players play there hand and also as the hands are completed so you are not updating AA89mTc after each card is played. It would be very difficult to the casino to prove anything.

Also you can use your fingers to count the chips. For example, if AA89mTc were +7 the you can have two fingers from your right hand extended which is +2 and a finger of your left hand on your right wrist which is +5 for a total of +7. Or if AA89MTc were -13 for example, then have three fingers from your left hand on the table for -3 and two fingers on your left wrist for -10 for a total of -13.

And also it is just two integers. You should be able to keep two integers in your head if you really have to.

But I have never been bothered moving my chips around. Either they did not notice or did not care what I was doing. But sometimes I just use my fingers as described above or keep both KO and AA89mTc in my head. It is not that hard to do.

**bjanalyst** · 01-01-2019, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by BJGenius007

I don't like you because you almost always gave misleading answers. Partial truth and not satisfiing answers.

What exactly are you accusing me of?? What is misleading? What are partial truths?

I am not going to give you the whole 1099-MISC because it has my personal information. I have no reason to lie. Do you want me to now show you the Royalty contract with Xlibris which shows that they post the books on 3rd party websites and collect the money and I am supposed to get part of that royalty.

Also look on line on Xlibris and you will se others have complained about Xlibris not paying royalties.

https://www.complaintsboard.com/comp...s-c402232.html

https://www.complaintsboard.com/comp...e-c374691.html

It really does not matter that much to me so I did not bother to follow up but I guess I should.

But here we go with me being attacked and accused of being dishonest. This is getting to be a personal attack on me and I would like it to stop!

**Freightman** · 01-01-2019, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by bjanalyst

I am not sure how the casino would prove you are using your chips to count. You are keeping only the AA89mTc for example, which is not the HL so if they tried to say you were using your chips to count the HL you coluld easily show that is not the case.

Also you can use your fingers to count the chips. For example, if AA89mTc were +7 the you can have two fingers from your right hand extended which is +2 and a finger of your left hand on your right wrist which is +5 for a total of +7. Or if AA89MTc were -13 for example, then have three fingers from your left hand on the table for -3 and two fingers on your left wrist for -10 for a total of -13.

And also it is just two integers. You should be able to keep two integers in your head if you really have to.

But I have never been bothered moving my chips around. Either they did not notice or did not care what I was doing. But sometimes I just use my fingers as described above of keep both KO and AA89mTc in my head. It is not that hard to do.

You’re kinda sorta on the right track. Utilization of the FBM ASC provides built in camoflauge.

**refinery** · 01-01-2019, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Freightman

You’re kinda sorta on the right track. Utilization of the FBM ASC provides built in camoflauge.

Can you stop with the uptick in this nonsense? It's going to take another 40 posts for him to realize it's nonsense trolling.

**refinery** · 01-01-2019, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by bjanalyst

What exactly are you accusing me of?? What is misleading.

I am not going to give you the whole 1099-MISC because it has myu personal information. I have no reason to lie. Do you want me to know show you the Royalty contract with Xlibris which shows that they post the books on 3rd party websites and collect the money and I am supposed to get part of that royalty.

Also look on line on Xlibris and you will se others have complained about Xlibris not paying royalties.

https://www.complaintsboard.com/comp...s-c402232.html

https://www.complaintsboard.com/comp...e-c374691.html

It really does not matter that much to me so I did not bother to follow up But I guess I should.

But here we go with me being attacked and accused of being dishonest.

BJGenius should be ignored entirely. He's a know nothing.

**Freightman** · 01-01-2019, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by therefinery

Can you stop with the uptick in this nonsense? It's going to take another 40 posts for him to realize it's nonsense trolling.

Getting close to 300. I was young when the thread started

**BJGenius007** · 01-01-2019, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by therefinery

BJGenius should be ignored entirely. He's a know nothing.

I have my fans. Refinery is the stupid one.

**Freightman** · 01-01-2019, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by BJGenius007

I have my fans. Refinery is the stupid one.

Okay boys - settle down. Be nice. Discuss something constructive. Would you like me to suggest a topic? Hmmm, wonder what it could be.

Getting close to 300.

**BJGenius007** · 01-01-2019, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Freightman

Okay boys - settle down. Be nice. Discuss something constructive. Would you like me to suggest a topic? Hmmm, wonder what it could be.

Getting close to 300.

We are helping to get you to that 300. Don't know why it is significant.

**Freightman** · 01-01-2019, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by BJGenius007

We are helping to get you to that 300. Don't know why it is significant.

I made my first reference to the length of this thread at post 160.

**James989** · 01-02-2019, 05:20 AM

I think Gronbog will post his sim results within this week, why can't we just wait for sim results ? From there we know who is lying !

**Dbs6582** · 01-02-2019, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by Three

Well a lawyer or better yet a judge would decide these issues. I fall under none of that. But you all express valid points that they may embrace. I would just err on the side of caution. I want to avoid being charged even if I know I can beat it in court. That said I don't think anyone has been charged this way yet. I have a vague memory of what might have been a rumor of this happening, or an actual incidence, or faulty memory. I could find anything with a search. I have to say it never happened without anything more than a fuzzy memory that might have been a rumor to start with.

Three, since this thread has been derailed by you believing casinos will try to charge people for using chips to count, I thought I’d point out a real life example of a person a casino caught using chips to count. It’s Ben Affleck. I’ve read several articles on this. While there were many give aways Ben was counting (the main one being his huge spread) there are several articles that say Surveillance saw him using $100 chips to keep track of the count. Basically, Ben was doing nothing to disguise his play.

What did the casinos do? They backed him off. They didn’t press charges and try to get him thrown in the slammer for using chips (a device) to keep the count. No, Ben didn’t end up in an orange jumpsuit. He’s still able to live life as a normal human being. So much for your theory that casinos will try to charge people for using chips as a device to cheat.