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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbs6582 View Post
    If a casino suspected someone of being an AP, why would they result to cheating through programming an ASM? Why not just kick them out them out like they’ve been doing for 50 years? What you’re saying defies common sense.

    Why would any casinos spend the time and money to do this? It’d take time, money and could result in jail time. Quite a few people would need to be involved to pull this off. You’d have to have someone who knew how an ASM works, knew programming logic and then understood bj well enough to know how to program the shuffle to get an advantage against an AP. That person/persons would know he’s doing something against the law and be willing to take the risk and go to jail if caught. Common sense tells you this would never happen.
    The casino will be happier if they can win all the AP’s money and letting them leave quietly in long face.

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    Just feel some people are naive.

    if I design the ASM, I ‘ll set three levels, basic, regular and super shuffle. If casino ask about, I would tell them, basic means simulating some new dealers who don’t shuffle well (I.e, there’re lots of clumping)etc. they can figure out things.

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    As long as casinos do not increase their own edge, do not decrease the edge for gamblers, and ASM programming only defeats card counters, regulators are not inclined to penalize any casino.

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    ASM's aren't programmed to defeat card counters. Quit spreading these lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    As long as casinos do not increase their own edge, do not decrease the edge for gamblers, and ASM programming only defeats card counters, regulators are not inclined to penalize any casino.
    ZeeBabar,

    If I may be a bit more tactful than ShipTheCookies, would you please provide some proof of your assertion. Lately I've heard this claim from you in several threads, but I do not recall seeing any justification for it.

    Thanks in advance!

    Dog Hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Hand View Post
    ZeeBabar,

    If I may be a bit more tactful than ShipTheCookies, would you please provide some proof of your assertion. Lately I've heard this claim from you in several threads, but I do not recall seeing any justification for it.

    Thanks in advance!

    Dog Hand
    Patience my man. These stories either come out very late or never. The WMD’s story came out way after we had destroyed a country, stole the oil and continue to occupy, the fake WMD’s long forgotten.

    ASM programming is spreading. Was a time when they programmed slots to return 99%, slowly the 99% became less and less.

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    Indulge me

    I have to admit this is a hard way to go to prove a point. My experience with ASM indicated that the machines utilize card recognition technology. Why would you need card recognition in a random shuffle. With today's technology, you can shuffle a six deck shoe at random, and play the same six deck shoe with 1 player, then with 2 players, then with 3 players then with 4 player, then with 5 players all using basic strategy, and players coming and going.Remember we are playing the same arrangement of six decks for the various seating sets. we will keep a record of the six deck sequence that yields the house the biggest advantage. If I can run this a million times, I can produce maybe 500 six deck combinations that will provide the house with more than a 10% advantage. unfortunately I can only provide you with one such arrangement because I had to play a lot of hands to get this group. with 332 hands played. even card counting with 95% accurate Basic strategy, no index on a $10.00 Minimum table.only yielded $70.00.
    Sorry, but I do believe that the regulators are in on this, Just based on the inclusion of card recognition technology in the ASM. Can we just bring random Back.

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    95 7Tv9 -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 3 -30 Lose -10 Lose
    95 89vT -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 3 -30 Lose -10 Lose
    95 24Tv3 10 Win 10 Win 10 Win 10 3 30 Win 10 Win
    95 T7vT -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -20 3 -30 Lose -80 Lose
    95 5A635vT 10 Win 20 Win 20 Win 10 2 20 Win 10 Win
    95 93v6 -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -20 3 -30 Lose -20 Lose
    95 52TvA -10 Lose -20 Lose -20 Lose -10 5 -50 Lose -10 Lose
    95 5TTv7 -20 Lose -40 Lose -40 Lose -10 5 -50 Lose -10 Lose
    95 2TA5vT 40 Win 10 Win 80 Win 10 5 50 Win 10 Win
    95 5A9TvT -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -20 7 -70 Lose -130 Lose
    95 ATvT 10 BJ 20 BJ 20 BJ 10 7 105 BJ 10 BJ
    95 TTv3 10 Win 10 Win 10 Win 20 5 50 Win 210 Win
    95 827v2 0 Push 0 Push 0 Push 0 4 0 Push 0 Push
    95 73vA -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -20 5 -50 Lose -80 Lose
    95 T9vT 10 Win 20 Win 20 Win 10 6 60 Win 10 Win
    95 TTvT 10 Win 10 Win 10 Win 20 3 30 Win 130 Win
    95 27438vT -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -20 -3 -10 Lose -50 Lose
    95 923v3 10 Win 20 Win 20 Win 10 2 20 Win 10 Win
    95 85Tv8 -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -20 0 -10 Lose -80 Lose
    95 83Tv8 10 Win 20 Win 20 Win 10 0 10 Win 10 Win
    95 94Tv9 -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 0 -10 Lose -130 Lose
    95 9Tv6 0 Push 0 Push 0 Push 0 -1 0 Push 0 Push
    95 2T6vT 10 Win 20 Win 20 Win 10 -1 10 Win 10 Win
    95 T64v9 10 Win 10 Win 10 Win 20 -2 10 Win 210 Win
    95 2Tv6 -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -20 -2 -10 Lose -80 Lose
    95 2A7v6 10 Win 20 Win 20 Win 10 -2 10 Win 10 Win
    95 285v6 -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -20 -2 -10 Lose -130 Lose
    95 38Tv3 0 Push 0 Push 0 Push 0 -1 0 Push 0 Push
    95 4384vT 0 Push 0 Push 0 Push 0 -2 0 Push 0 Push
    95 T35v9 10 Win 20 Win 20 Win 10 0 10 Win 10 Win
    95 745vT -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -20 0 -10 Lose -210 Lose
    95 TTv9 10 Win 20 Win 20 Win 10 1 10 Win 10 Win
    95 6TvT 10 Win 10 Win 10 Win 20 0 10 Win 340 Win
    95 TTvT 10 Win 10 Win 10 Win 20 -1 10 Win 130 Win
    95 T4vT -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -20 0 -10 Lose 50 Lose
    95 82TvT 10 Win 20 Win 20 Win 10 -2 10 Win 20 Win
    95 9Tv4 10 Win 10 Win 10 Win 20 -2 10 Win 10 Win
    95 54vT -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -20 -2 -10 Lose -10 Lose
    95 46TvT 10 Win 20 Win 20 Win 10 -2 10 Win 10 Win
    95 TTv6 10 Win 10 Win 10 Win 20 -4 10 Win 10 Win
    95 TTvT -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -20 -7 -10 Lose -10 Lose
    95 95Tv8 -10 Lose -20 Lose -20 Lose -10 -8 -10 Lose -10 Lose
    95 67TvA -20 Lose -40 Lose -40 Lose -10 -7 -10 Lose -10 Lose
    95 2T6v9 40 Win 10 Win 10 Win 10 -6 10 Win 10 Win
    95 847v2 10 Win 10 Win 10 Win 20 -13 10 Win 10 Win
    95 279v2 10 Win 10 Win 10 Win 20 -6 10 Win 10 Win
    95 4Tv3 -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -20 -6 -10 Lose -10 Lose
    95 54Tv4 10 Win 20 Win 20 Win 10 0 10 Win 10 Win
    95 62TvA -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -20 1 -10 Lose -10 Lose
    95 5T8vT -10 Lose -20 Lose -20 Lose -10 0 -10 Lose -10 Lose
    95 3Tv6 -20 Lose -40 Lose -40 Lose -10 0 -10 Lose -10 Lose
    95 TTvA 40 Win 10 Win 80 Win 10 0 10 Win 10 Win
    95 57v6 -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -20 0 -10 Lose -20 Lose
    95 5Tv3 10 Win 20 Win 20 Win 10 0 10 Win 10 Win
    95 4Tv5 10 Win 10 Win 10 Win 20 0 10 Win 30 Win
    95 2T4v3 -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -20 1 -10 Lose -10 Lose
    95 66Tv7 -10 Lose -20 Lose -20 Lose -10 0 -10 Lose -10 Lose
    95 T4v5 20 Win 40 Win 40 Win 10 0 10 Win 10 Win
    95 TTvA -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -20 0 -10 Lose -20 Lose
    95 T8v9 10 Win 20 Win 20 Win 10 -1 10 Win 10 Win
    95 T27vT -10 Lose -10 Lose -10 Lose -20 -1 -10 Lose -30 Lose
    95 4357vT 10 Win 20 Win 20 Win 10 0 10 Win 10 Win
    95 2T5v3 10 Win 10 Win 10 Win 20 0 10 Win 50 Win
    95 ATv6 10 BJ 10 BJ 10 BJ 20 1 15 BJ 20 BJ
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    I must be really, really good at counting if they're rigged

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yfhuang81 View Post
    Just feel some people are naive.

    if I design the ASM, I ‘ll set three levels, basic, regular and super shuffle. If casino ask about, I would tell them, basic means simulating some new dealers who don’t shuffle well (I.e, there’re lots of clumping)etc. they can figure out things.
    Close enough. There are three modes: true random, cruise and beast. The difference between cruise and beast mode is that the former clumps cards but it is not malicious. The clumping may benefit the players.

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    Regardless of what the ASM does, Card counting will always retain its advantage on the long run. The problem is that the advantage is severely reduced. I'd just rather make $50.00 an hour than $70.00 for 3 hours work. Sorry I brought it up.

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