Need opinions and strategy suggestions on a "strange" blackjack rule

[SircOlman]

Hey,

my name is Alex, I'm from Germany and this is my first post in this Forum. Since english is not my first language, please excuse any spelling or grammatical errors

So now to my question. I'll be heading on a boat-trip next month, and this boat will have a casino where I will hopefully be playing Blackjack. Since, as you know, rules in BJ matter a lot,
I already asked the casino via mail about the offered rules on the boat. With following answer:

- ENHC (European Blackjack)
- No CSM
- 6 Decks
- BJ pays 3:2
- Stand all 17s
- Double hards only on 9, 10 and 11
- DAS allowed
- No surrender

When I then asked what about doubling on soft hands I got an answer I really NEVER heard about and now I'm confused:

- Doubling a soft hand is allowed on any number, but the Ace MUST count as 1 afterwards.
What will mean -> Doubling on A8 and get a 2 is a 11 and cant be counted as a 21.

Can you please share your opinion about that rule and are there (or can anybody calculate) basic strategy tables for doubling softhands under these conditions?
Since I'll be using the REKO-Count, any advice on deviation from basic strategy on these rules would also be welcome

Hope you guys can help me out here

Regards,
Alex

[DSchles]

First, Alex, let me tell you that I wish everyone on this board whose first language was English wrote it as well as you write it as your second language! Congratulations on a perfectly fine post.

The answer to your question is rather simple: with these rules, DON'T double A,8! A side note: once upon a time, in Puerto Rico, they also had the rule that you could only double 9, 10, and 11. But they were so dumb that, if you doubled A,8 and caught a deuce, they still counted it as 21! Note that the similar problem doesn't exist with doubling A,9 (if the count is sufficiently high), because there, if you catch an ace, it's that second ace (hit card) that you count as 11, so there is no problem, as you make it 10 (original hand) + 11 (ace) = 21.

Don

[Freightman]

First, Alex, let me tell you that I wish everyone on this board whose first language was English wrote it as well as you write it as your second language! Congratulations on a perfectly fine post.

The answer to your question is rather simple: with these rules, DON'T double A,8! A side note: once upon a time, in Puerto Rico, they also had the rule that you could only double 9, 10, and 11. But they were so dumb that, if you doubled A,8 and caught a deuce, they still counted it as 21! Note that the similar problem doesn't exist with doubling A,9 (if the count is sufficiently high), because there, if you catch an ace, it's that second ace (hit card) that you count as 11, so there is no problem, as you make it 10 (original hand) + 11 (ace) = 21.

Don

Don is suggesting that your paltry single spelling error and one accidental capitalization, is potentially stronger, grammatically from others, possibly even myself. This is of course, erroneous, especially as I am a practioner of the Schlesinger Manoever.

I presume that you are familiar with the additional index precautions warranted by ENHC rules regarding loss of all doubles, splits etc., against dealer blackjack.

[Diogenes]

Don is suggesting that your paltry single spelling error and one accidental capitalization, is potentially stronger, grammatically from others, possibly even myself. This is of course, erroneous, especially as I am a practioner of the Schlesinger Manoever.

What's the "Schlesinger Manouvre?" Can't find it in BJA3, and can't sim it.

[Freightman]

What's the "Schlesinger Manouvre?" Can't find it in BJA3, and can't sim it.

First, your obliteration of Manoever indicates French inclinations on your part.

The Schlesinger Manoever is conceptual in nature, encouraging practitioners of same to practice safe grammar. Proper execution of same raises base individual temperatures allowing expansion of neural pathways, thus promoting speed in neuro traffic transmissions.

The SM, along with the now regaled FBM ASC, are thought to be new additions to be incorporated in the potential upcoming BJA4.

[DSchles]

Don is suggesting that your paltry single spelling error and one accidental capitalization, is potentially stronger, grammatically from others, possibly even myself. This is of course, erroneous, especially as I am a practioner of the Schlesinger Manoever.

I presume that you are familiar with the additional index precautions warranted by ENHC rules regarding loss of all doubles, splits etc., against dealer blackjack.

You spelled maneuver/manoeuvre wrong again.

Don

[Freightman]

You spelled maneuver/manoeuvre wrong again.

Don

No excuse this time, though I liked the commentary, and look forward to inclusion of the FBM ASC in BJA4.

[ZeeBabar]

No excuse this time, though I liked the commentary, and look forward to inclusion of the FBM ASC in BJA4.

You just won't let the FBM ASC did a quiet death. No one seems much interested but you keep bringing it up. Just like some others who keep their system to themselves, perhaps it's time you do too. Some casino personnel lurking on this forum is going to back off someone who is simply itchy down below.

[SircOlman]

First, Alex, let me tell you that I wish everyone on this board whose first language was English wrote it as well as you write it as your second language! Congratulations on a perfectly fine post.

The answer to your question is rather simple: with these rules, DON'T double A,8! A side note: once upon a time, in Puerto Rico, they also had the rule that you could only double 9, 10, and 11. But they were so dumb that, if you doubled A,8 and caught a deuce, they still counted it as 21! Note that the similar problem doesn't exist with doubling A,9 (if the count is sufficiently high), because there, if you catch an ace, it's that second ace (hit card) that you count as 11, so there is no problem, as you make it 10 (original hand) + 11 (ace) = 21.

Don

Thank you Don, for your kind words.

To your answer:
I think you correctly assumed that doubling is only allowed on softhands that can be counted as 9 (A8), 10 (A9) and 11 (what would make no sense ). When I startet this post yesterday, I understood the answer of the casino the way,
that doubling softs would be possible on ANY number. So also like A3, A4 but get the ace counted as 1 afterwards. Therefore I asked for a hole basic strategy on that rule But It would probably just be the same as if you doubled the hardhand.
But anyway, after I reread the answer of the casino, your assumption could be right, that they meant doubling softs is allowed on any number of the allowed numbers 9, 10 and 11.

Since I understood your answer this way:
Never Double S19. Double S20 only on a signifficant high count. Since Ill be using REKO, which has just one simplyfied change of strategy on +2, I suggest that this count would not be high enough to justify a double on S20?
So I further assume that under these conditions I wont be doubling any softhands?

regards,
Alex

[Freightman]

You just won't let the FBM ASC did a quiet death.

You ask why?
Tradition

https://youtu.be/sWSoYCetG6A

[DSchles]

"So I further assume that under these conditions I wont be doubling any softhands?"

Yes, correct.

Don