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    How to maintain a home store long term?

    Having recently moved I have a new store and am running into some problems. My old location was as comfy as an old pair of shoes. They were used to my quirky, "superstitious", weird and annoying to ploppies style of play. In the new joint they're suspicious, condescending, rude and down right hateful. Being minutes away I want to Ingratiate myself and make this a long and prosperous (for me) relationship. I need any and all advice and wisdom. Players card? Real info? Please PM me if it's too revealing for public consumption. Thank you guys.
    “The essence of independence has been to think and act according to standards from within, not without.”
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    If it's a local store where you are going to be a regular, they will give you an identity and they will scrutinize you closer. Many a small town casino prefers regulars and players card. Players card significantly reduced the best and there is No urgency to catch you.

    After that, if you resist the temptation to make every session a winning one and let them regularly book a loss, you can have the casino for years. I am not saying you intentionally lose, just that when you are down, end the session for a while. Sometimes you win instantly but other times you can go down a bit. For example, if I am down more than a couple of hundred dollars, I can sit there and recover (giving them a long session to see my play) or I can recover a bit, leave after booking a small loss. Try to have as close to a 50% session record. If you start booking a record where you are winning all your sessions, you will lose it too quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Try to have as close to a 50% session record.
    This is an absolute guaranteed path to being a loser.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth View Post
    This is an absolute guaranteed path to being a loser.
    Have to agree with this. Better to appear you are losing by rat holing chips, playing low limits (red chips) also helps.

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    Read Ian Andersen's 'Burning the Tables', it gives a good insight into how not to appear to be a typical counter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dharmaprija View Post
    I need any and all advice and wisdom. Players card? Real info? Please PM me if it's too revealing for public consumption. Thank you guys.
    If you want to be left alone spend some time establishing yourself as a non-counter that moves their bet around but not with the count and makes plays according to gut feeling. If you understand the counting game you should be able to do that and maintain plus EV. Some places won't care and will bar any ploppy that doesn't flat bet pretty quick. But most casinos understand how stupid and shortsighted that is. Once they know you and have made an assessment you are good to go for a while. Using a players card will keep them from looking at you again for a longer period of time but that might not be worth the negative aspects of using a card. When you start play at a new casino that you want to be welcomed back to, you need to make sure you make the right first impression as a top priority. The investment in EV will come back when you are playing longer before the drop the ax or when you can get away with more before they get suspicious. The investment is usually well worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth View Post
    This is an absolute guaranteed path to being a loser.
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    If you want to be left alone spend some time establishing yourself as a non-counter that moves their bet around but not with the count and makes plays according to gut feeling. If you understand the counting game you should be able to do that and maintain plus EV. Some places won't care and will bar any ploppy that doesn't flat bet pretty quick. But most casinos understand how stupid and shortsighted that is. Once they know you and have made an assessment you are good to go for a while. Using a players card will keep them from looking at you again for a longer period of time but that might not be worth the negative aspects of using a card. When you start play at a new casino that you want to be welcomed back to, you need to make sure you make the right first impression as a top priority. The investment in EV will come back when you are playing longer before the drop the ax or when you can get away with more before they get suspicious. The investment is usually well worth it.
    What's the probability that Three here, has typed more words, in just the last 7 days than Stephen King has in his entire writing career? I'm going with 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShipTheCookies View Post
    What's the probability that Three here, has typed more words, in just the last 7 days than Stephen King has in his entire writing career? I'm going with 100%
    I'm gonna go with 0%. Three doesn't type.

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    My best advice is to find a different way to extract money from this casino that isn't blackjack.

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    Why were Three and Zee banned/suspended?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koz84 View Post
    Why were Three and Zee banned/suspended?
    Pissing match.

    Several others were suspended as well.

    Should all be back in about 3 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koz84 View Post
    Why were Three and Zee banned/suspended?
    Norm explained the latest round of bannings in this thread.
    https://www.blackjacktheforum.com/sh...Concerns/page3

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