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    If You Reach Your Yearly Goal Do You Quit Playing for the Year

    Lets assume one plays blackjack for a living and has a $100,000 win goal each year. Lets also assume this is the high end of what you will normally make in a year. Most of the time you will come in under this goal like maybe $85,000 to $90,000. However, assume this year you are having a great year and by the end of October you have blown through your $100,000 win goal. Do you take the rest of the year off and enjoy family or do you continue to plug away?
    https://www.legitgamblingsites.com/b...rofessionally/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Lets assume one plays blackjack for a living and has a $100,000 win goal each year. Lets also assume this is the high end of what you will normally make in a year. Most of the time you will come in under this goal like maybe $85,000 to $90,000. However, assume this year you are having a great year and by the end of October you have blown through your $100,000 win goal. Do you take the rest of the year off and enjoy family or do you continue to plug away?
    Keep playing! It is all one long session anyway. Whether or not if it is December 31 or June 8, you keep on chugging away until you can't play at any joint in the world.

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    Keep playing. Why stop? Generate that EV. Only stop if you were planning to stop in October and have met your EV requirements.

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    I don’t have set playing schedules as such, therefore, I don’t have yearly goals.

    My best year, I peaked in November and dropped about 12k in December. Shit happens. Mind you, I still had most of my local joints in those days.

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    I am sure this is the answer from most of us:

    https://youtu.be/dDniBcAabMc?t=53

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    $45 x 40 hrs x 52 weeks =$93,600 LoL. So someone makes that money doing some addition and some chips pushing ? the boss just pays him that kind of money and let him/her set their own hours and never lay them off ? ridiculous assumption p.s. $400 x 300 hours, $300 x 400 hours , $200 x 600 hours = $120,000 then minus $20k expenses seem more of a realistic picture of a $100k pro .
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    Didn't you ask this ploppy question not long ago? This sounds like a question our end of the alphabet friend would ask. You're again focusing on short term results, which is WRONG.

    I don't have a yearly goal. I have a calculated EV which increases linearly with time played. Nothing else matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    However, assume this year you are having a great year and by the end of October you have blown through your $100,000 win goal. Do you take the rest of the year off and enjoy family or do you continue to plug away?
    Well if you are one particular guy here you go back to your free time and continue your posting on the site with a goal of reaching 15000 posts by the end of the year.

    Quote Originally Posted by stopgambling View Post
    $45 x 40 hrs x 52 weeks =$93,600 LoL. So someone makes that money doing some addition and some chips pushing ? the boss just pays him that kind of money and let him/her set their own hours and never lay them off ? ridiculous assumption p.s.
    That is not a ridiculous assumption if you are Three. After all, he gives much of his positive EV right back with bedazzlement so he can play on an even keel with a simple system player, BUT completely looking like a non-threat. The bosses heads are left spinning and continue to let him play until he reaches some serious lifetime threshold. Meanwhile between playing and posting "I'm sorry his own free time" his true earnings "like the true count" average the same as most blue-collar workers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Didn't you ask this ploppy question not long ago? This sounds like a question our end of the alphabet friend would ask. You're again focusing on short term results, which is WRONG.

    I don't have a yearly goal. I have a calculated EV which increases linearly with time played. Nothing else matters.
    Here we go again. This guy cannot help trying to bring me into every thread or get on my thread. Why do you have the need to get publicity for your obsession?

    It could have been a good post without the need to show hostility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Lets assume one plays blackjack for a living and has a $100,000 win goal each year. Lets also assume this is the high end of what you will normally make in a year. Most of the time you will come in under this goal like maybe $85,000 to $90,000. However, assume this year you are having a great year and by the end of October you have blown through your $100,000 win goal. Do you take the rest of the year off and enjoy family or do you continue to plug away?
    https://www.legitgamblingsites.com/b...rofessionally/
    First, a very good article.

    Second, I am all for taking a vacation, refreshing yourself. I would encourage the idea, particularly if you can thank and get support from your loved ones for your career.

    The article was very good for me because I play the exact spread used in the calculations and I have attained the same results of $45 an hour last year and this year. However, as local options have closed, I am still struggling with how to keep travel expenses down and find optimal trip formulas.

    Given those stakes, a 25 hour playing trip gets 25 x $45 or $$1125 but a 3 day Las Vegas where I play 25 hours costs me $500 (if rooms comped), $650 otherwise. Exploring other less expensive options closer to the Midwest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Lets assume one plays blackjack for a living and has a $100,000 win goal each year. Lets also assume this is the high end of what you will normally make in a year. Most of the time you will come in under this goal like maybe $85,000 to $90,000. However, assume this year you are having a great year and by the end of October you have blown through your $100,000 win goal. Do you take the rest of the year off and enjoy family or do you continue to plug away?
    back to the original question . maybe if your Ap play is always looking for a different way to make $. That is you might not play Bj the next year and find something else to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Lets assume one plays blackjack for a living and has a $100,000 win goal each year. Lets also assume this is the high end of what you will normally make in a year. Most of the time you will come in under this goal like maybe $85,000 to $90,000. However, assume this year you are having a great year and by the end of October you have blown through your $100,000 win goal. Do you take the rest of the year off and enjoy family or do you continue to plug away?
    https://www.legitgamblingsites.com/b...rofessionally/
    I don't have any goals. If I can pay my bills and put money away at the same time I try to enjoy life. If I am behind I try to enjoy life. I have no goals. I know what to expect in the long run and what swings to expect. How I do along the way is irrelevant. If your life is all about money you die with a lot of money but without ever having lived.

    The questions are: Are there things you would like to do now or is this a time of year you would rather be playing? Is this a good time of year to be playing or are opportunities tougher this time of year? Are there other times of the year you would rather enjoy more and are these good times for playing opportunities or poor times for playing opportunities? It sounds like you can take some time to enjoy life. The question is, do you want to do that now or at some other time of the year and which makes more sense from a playing perspective. If you have been maximizing results in the least amount of time played means you can answer the playing questions. Unfortunately for me the two don't overlap very well. But I make the right priorities and enjoy my life first and do the best I can playing second. My playing habits changed this time of year. I am not sure I play less (in the casino) but I definitely play more in life. I try to balance both but if it comes down to one or the other, I choose enjoying life. I hope everyone else would give you the same advice.

    As you can see I both enjoy life and do my best not to play less but I love this time of year and often realize it has been a while since I played. Then I go out and kick some ass and then have some more fun. You definitely don't want to fall out of practice. I did that once. It was my fun time of year and I had reams of new data to go data mining through. I was in exactly the situation you described (Up 6 figures by the end of August and worried about the heat it might have generated despite spreading it among many casinos) and played too little and regretted it. I didn't waste time as I did a ton of research and made sure I enjoyed my favorite time of year. I did pretty well when knocking off the dust coming in well above EV but did get my ass kicked really bad once or twice and wondered if it was because I had made mistakes and was betting into air instead of big advantage meaning I lost money I shouldn't have lost. I wasn't testing 100% right like I always do. The losses weren't anything out of the normal extremes but knowing I might have made a mistake made me wonder. Don't do that. LoL
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    There is no assurance of winning 100K the NEXT year, so keep playing and build a bank/buffer. It is all one big session. Variance and N0 has no idea the calendar changed.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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