BP team play, is KO better than Hilo?

[San Jose Bella]

https://www.blackjackincolor.com/penetration2.htm

For 6 deck game, the big player is more likely to be called in after two decks are played out, so the TC becomes high enough to warrent a call-in.
Notice the sweet spot for KO on the graph, I guess that's exactly the part for the big player to take action! Am I right?

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[Stealth]

No, KO does not provide accurate TC data at less than its pivot. Very important for BP to have this data. True counted KO would be much closer to a comparison but does not offer a benefit.

I think you mean after two decks not two shoes. Generally if the spotter is more than three decks in (or the remaining shoe is ace poor), then we will not call in the BP due to the limited number of rounds available.

Calling your BP in at TC2 or higher can allow him to primarily flat bet assuming your bankroll can support it. Departures from flat betting could occur when the TC goes below 2 or their is a procedure for the BP to start the next shoe.

BP skills must transcend counting and must include the judgment to implement the departures from normal protocols and I am not refering to indexes.

[San Jose Bella]

No, KO does not provide accurate TC data at less than its pivot. Very important for BP to have this data. True counted KO would be much closer to a comparison but does not offer a benefit.

I think you mean after two decks not two shoes. Generally if the spotter is more than three decks in (or the remaining shoe is ace poor), then we will not call in the BP due to the limited number of rounds available.

Calling your BP in at TC2 or higher can allow him to primarily flat bet assuming your bankroll can support it. Departures from flat betting could occur when the TC goes below 2 or their is a procedure for the BP to start the next shoe.

BP skills must transcend counting and must include the judgment to implement the departures from normal protocols and I am not refering to indexes.

Yes, two decks, thanks for correcting me.

KO is an unbalanced count, so advantage estimation is not that accurate in the first two decks, but from the graph I see, it outperforms Hilo during later decks if the KO running count is kept, and that's where the BP is more likely to sitdown and play.
I think it's okay to inaccurately estimate the advantage in the beginning as long as it can make it up latter on, no?

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[Three]

it outperforms Hilo during later decks if the KO running count is kept, and that's where the BP is more likely to sitdown and play.

I think you missed Stealth's point. Reread his post.

Generally if the spotter is more than three decks in (or the remaining shoe is ace poor), then we will not call in the BP due to the limited number of rounds available.

He is talking about not exposing your BP to play unless the rewards are worth the exposure. He explained why it wasn't worth the exposure. Casinos are merciless if you get caught doing team play. They watch for this play and will blackbook, database, flyer and trespass those they catch using team play. That can kill an AP's access to games. Team play is repeat with disposable players for this reason.

[seriousplayer]

https://www.blackjackincolor.com/penetration2.htm

For 6 deck game, the big player is more likely to be called in after two decks are played out, so the TC becomes high enough to warrent a call-in.
Notice the sweet spot for KO on the graph, I guess that's exactly the part for the big player to take action! Am I right?

???? PACM00 ?? Tapatalk??

At the bottom of the sim details it list KO-P which is a compromise version of KO. If you use the KO-full without compromise indices the chart would be different. With KO-full without compromise indices KO might close up the gap when compare with Hi-lo in earlier depths.