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    Quote Originally Posted by dharmaprija View Post
    "required to charge an "ante" (.50) for every hand played in BJ"
    Most places charge 25 cents, and most will charge no ante
    on slow days and some that I have played at, charge no ante
    whatsoever to players who present a player's card.

    THE most interesting point to make is this:
    The casinos must return BJ profits to the players;
    and generally do so by holding monthly free-roll tourneys.
    The catch is that they will let you play as long as you toke
    the dealers (many of them who are 18 - 20 years old).
    Otherwise - the tribe elders have a reduced SKIM to chop up.
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    There have been episodes of Native American operated casinos, though not in OK,
    confiscating chips of players. I recall an incident in rural Mississippi.
    Perhaps, the worst episode happened not long ago, when the woman who was
    Phil Ivey's partner, was relieved of $1,000,000 in Front Money at Foxwoods Casino in CT.
    Episodes of outright cheating were, for a few years, rife in the California Indian casinos.

    Also, I will add that some Indian casinos are particularly nasty when they 86' a cards counter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinnyBJplayer View Post
    The casinos must return BJ profits to the players;
    So why do they sweat APs?

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    Oklahoma is within reasonable driving distance but I have yet to go there. I wish there was a way to know which casinos had no ante and which casinos would require no ante if you get a players card. I just dont want to pop in to every one to find out. If anyone can PM me or share here, I would appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Oklahoma is within reasonable driving distance but I have yet to go there. I wish there was a way to know which casinos had no ante and which casinos would require no ante if you get a players card. I just dont want to pop in to every one to find out. If anyone can PM me or share here, I would appreciate it.
    And have you post a trip report?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    So why do they sweat APs?
    Right?

    I know of one store in that state that doesn't care. One. And it's a bad game, but you can spread has much as you want as long as you're paying the ante. Which, by the way, increases as your bet does.

    Blackjack is supposed to be positive off the top, so they charge an ante so they presumably get paid since every patron presumably wins. In reality, just like anywhere, some games are better and some are worse, but I've yet to find one positive off the top. To comply with the law, the table hold is given back to the players in terms of monthly or weekly prizes, tournaments, etc. I suspect there's some skimming going on, otherwise why would they care if you counted? Its player money, right?

    But yeah, a lot of them are very sweaty.

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    Zee, do you want to get killed in a tornado. Oklahoma is a dangerous place.

    There is no reason why you would have to make a trip there to find out which casinos have "no ante" days. Go on the internet and find all the OK casinos and then call them and ask them if they have ante free days. The casino web site might also mention this.

    Zee, here is some old info on this.
    https://www.blackjackinfo.com/commun...-casino.19543/

    Here is one example of finding an Oklahoma casino that offers "no ante" just by reading their web site, but I would also call and confirm. Now you are going to have to do some work yourself. You can't expect others to do all this for you.
    http://downstreamcasino.com/q-club/ Check the Q-Club benefits.

    PS. That upper midwest trip is still waiting for you.
    Last edited by Midwest Player; 05-28-2019 at 11:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    So why do they sweat APs?
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    As I stated - they SKIM cash (a la mid-20th century) - mob style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Zee, do you want to get killed in a tornado. Oklahoma is a dangerous place.
    Come on now Zee knows how to get out of a situation like that. While in disguise as a female he would just click his heels together three times while saying: there's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home.

    Zee, I agree with MWP stay out of Oklahoma.

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    Zee, here is another casaino offering no ante on Tuesday Wed and Sat.
    https://www.osagecasino.com/gaming/
    Last edited by Midwest Player; 05-28-2019 at 11:16 AM.

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