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Thread: 8,8 v 6 @ TC=2+ ... sPlit or Double?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteinMeister View Post
    Also, interestingly, Wong’s ’94 Basic Hi Lo has "no split" for 4,4v5 or 6 at any index.)
    This is not correct. Wong does have an index for splitting 4,4 vs 5 or 6. It can be found in Appendix A, Table A3 Part 3 Split for a H17 game. It is -2 for both 5 and 6 in a Das game.

    PS. This is from kindle version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    This is not correct. Wong does have an index for splitting 4,4 vs 5 or 6. It can be found in Appendix A, Table A3 Part 3 Split for a H17 game. It is -2 for both 5 and 6 in a Das game.

    PS. This is from kindle version.
    Wouldn't that index be for not splitting since BS is to split 4s against a 5 and 6? Assuming the game is DAS and not single deck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    One does get looked at as weird when it is done

    ...and the remarks for the plops are often priceless


    splits rule as they are much more 'powerful' evwise....as you also may get the opportunity to still double

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    Quote Originally Posted by angle_sh00ter View Post
    Wouldn't that index be for not splitting since BS is to split 4s against a 5 and 6? Assuming the game is DAS and not single deck
    Unless a splitting index is a "reverse" index, with an asterisk, you split if the TC is >= the number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    This is not correct. Wong does have an index for splitting 4,4 vs 5 or 6. It can be found in Appendix A, Table A3 Part 3 Split for a H17 game. It is -2 for both 5 and 6 in a Das game.

    PS. This is from kindle version.
    Good point Midwest Player. I was only referencing the indices provided in CVCX. Maybe Norm abbreviated Wong's original indices (?). See below (excerpt from CVCX):

    44 vs 5 _ 6 --jpg.jpg

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    The indices are from the book. You have the NDaS table up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShipTheCookies View Post
    DAS or NoDAS?

    Ahh... I see your point now. Wong's Professional Blackjack pg 254 (double asterisk) , states "with 4-4, splitting is better than doubling down ONLY if 'DAS' ".

    And, since my parameters include DAS, then sPlitting is better than Doubling. Still, a unanimous verdict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    The indices are from the book. You have the NDaS table up.
    Thanks Norm. I will review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    The indices are from the book. You have the NDaS table up.
    Norm: Is there a setting that I'm missing? It appears that it's set for DAS. (See below)44 vs 5 _ 6 ----5 _jpg_.jpg

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    The chart on the right is clearly for NDAS.

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    Affecting Options has a different purpose as explained in the Help and should rarely be used. The table displayed is according to the rules set on the Options-Settings screen. You have double after split turned off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Unless a splitting index is a "reverse" index, with an asterisk, you split if the TC is >= the number.

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    Yes i guess thats what i meant. I just always think of it the other way though. If BS is to split then the departure from BS is to not split when the TC is less than the index. It doesnt matter how you think about it though as long as the result is the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    ... The table displayed is according to the rules set on the Options-Settings screen. You have double after split turned off.
    Norm: are you talking about the Options - Settings screen in CVBJ? (I see that CVBJ -> Menu -> Options -> Settings has the "Double Down After Split" check box option).

    But the table that I displayed in post # 22 is from: CVCX -> Create a new Sim -> Attach a Strategy -> Stanford Wong -> 94 Basic Hi Lo -> Display Tables -> Split (table displayed). There was no option for DAS or NoDAS in this process.

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