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Thread: Vegas casino sent me an offer for comp room nights, then 86ed me when I got there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by San Jose Bella View Post
    Why doesn't the op mention the casino's name, but say "Vegas casino" instead? Is it for the purpose of protecting personal identity?
    I would assume so. Its too late to do it now but the best way to out a casino for these types of practices would be with a new account/handle which you never plan on using again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    After checking into a room under your name that they are familiar with, why do you think they wouldn't be actively looking for you in the casino? They may even track your movements after you leave your room. Just a look at you when you leave the room would be enough to easily spot you in the casino by your clothing and bling, etc.
    I am not that paranoid that I believe someone will jump up when they see me check in, assign someone to monitor me as I walk to my room, keep an eye on my door, follow me as I walk to elevator, take it to casino floor, wait in line at Starbucks, take my drink, follow me to a table and then back me off, take away my comps. That's a lot of resources.

    I n most cases, I do the above, walk down sans my toupee and thick eye glasses, play rated for an hour using cover. Then, I go off to other casinos. On that same shift, I play rated. On other shifts, I play with toupee and anonymously, in other casinos, I may used a players card if heat is bothersome or pull out my card if I am losing or planning to leave with small win.

    I don't come to Lax Vegas often enough to be remembered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by San Jose Bella View Post
    Why doesn't the op mention the casino's name, but say "Vegas casino" instead? Is it for the purpose of protecting personal identity?
    yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    I am not that paranoid that I believe someone will jump up when they see me check in, assign someone to monitor me as I walk to my room, keep an eye on my door, follow me as I walk to elevator, take it to casino floor, wait in line at Starbucks, take my drink, follow me to a table and then back me off, take away my comps. That's a lot of resources.
    Surveillance has a bolo list with photos. Once you check in you are on their list and on the podium. It is everyone's job to be on the lookout for known APs on the BOLO list. BOLO means they are known to be in the area. Are you so naive that you don't understand that they would put your photo up in surveillance as soon as you check in? Vegas is a sweaty shithole for the most part but you expect them to be stupid?

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    Did the casino charged you money in any way, shape, or form, due to booking the room? Did they put a temporary hold on your credit card? I know some places will charge you, after the fact, if you don't show up to check-in to a comped room...did they do anything like that?

    I ain't no lawyer or nothing, but I believe there's some law-type stuff about accepting money and thus be entered into a contract, because that party is accepting. Sorta like how, at least supposedly, if a debt collector is after you, they may ask you to pay some small amount, like $10 -- by doing this, you accept that you owe them money, and now you're on the hook for the full amount. At least, so I've heard. Following that logic, if the casino accepts money from you (even if there's a temporary hold on your CC), then they should be on the hook for giving you the room.

    I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, that's how real estate contracts work -- a contract isn't valid until money exchanges hands. Obviously this isn't a real estate case, though, so I may be mixing some stuff up.
    I think the casino would have let him check in. They just weren't going to comp his room. I don't see how that could be breech of contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    I think the casino would have let him check in. They just weren't going to comp his room. I don't see how that could be breech of contract.
    No they didn't let me check in at all, the 86ed me from the casino

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS View Post
    Did the casino charged you money in any way, shape, or form, due to booking the room? Did they put a temporary hold on your credit card? I know some places will charge you, after the fact, if you don't show up to check-in to a comped room...did they do anything like that?

    I ain't no lawyer or nothing, but I believe there's some law-type stuff about accepting money and thus be entered into a contract, because that party is accepting. Sorta like how, at least supposedly, if a debt collector is after you, they may ask you to pay some small amount, like $10 -- by doing this, you accept that you owe them money, and now you're on the hook for the full amount. At least, so I've heard. Following that logic, if the casino accepts money from you (even if there's a temporary hold on your CC), then they should be on the hook for giving you the room.

    I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, that's how real estate contracts work -- a contract isn't valid until money exchanges hands. Obviously this isn't a real estate case, though, so I may be mixing some stuff up.


    As far as whether or not it's worth it to pursue, that's up to you. IMO, I doubt you'd win the case. Even if you do win the case, probably not going to be much money -- so on that side, not worth it. As far as "if no one stands up to them, they'll just keep doing it", that's a personal opinion. I'd love it if everyone went after the casinos for stupid stuff like this (not saying your side is stupid, but what the casino did is stupid), but I don't think I would do it myself. I've never been involved in any kind of litigation or what-have-you, but I've heard it takes a long time, lots of paperwork, bunch of this and that, and at the end of it, the person would have made far more money if they just dropped the case and worked on putting in the hours APing. Also, if you are involved in a current case, then (as far as I've been told) you absolutely do not want to end up in another case like that...where for instance, if you get 86'd and/or arrested at another casino for AP, that wouldn't look too good for the current case.


    Best of luck to you in however you decide to pursue or not pursue this.
    They took my credit card to book the room, but didn't charge it anything. If they did charge me a cancellation fee or something I'd definatly fight that.
    A long time ago in another casino my credit card was charged $200 after checking out. I called and they said 2 robes were missing from the room, total bs.
    After about 5 phone calls to the casino, I finally got another employee to reverse the charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimsmith View Post
    No they didn't let me check in at all, the 86ed me from the casino
    I guess I was right the first time, they wanted to get that 86ing that they missed the first time.

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