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    Anybody know the house edge increase on this

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    Quote Originally Posted by smallcapgrowth View Post
    Splits and doubles after split only get paid 1.5 percent of original wager.
    Don't you mean 75% of original wager? At least for first example. Maybe there is max payout of only $150. Second example seems very strange.

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    Another way to look at it is that you getting paid %50 on your extra "double or split" money, only of you win. It is a free roll by the casino, as you would lose %100 of the extra money if you lose the hand. That would make it the best double down option a losing proposition. The house edge will depend if you actually double or split. If you refuse to double or split and play regular game, the extra house edge, compared to other casinos, is %2 for DD and %1.8 for 6D. If you double or split under these conditions, the house edge will be quite high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Don't you mean 75% of original wager? At least for first example. Maybe there is max payout of only $150. Second example seems very strange.

    It doesn’t matter what he wrote - what he means is self evident. I’m not going to bother to figure it out. The only relevance is that it’s not worthwhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    The only relevance is that it’s not worthwhile.
    That will depend on which side of the table. He might be banking it.

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    I just need to determine what it does to the house edge. I can do many things on this game. But I need to find out what this rule does. I can figure everything g else out myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banker View Post
    That will depend on which side of the table. He might be banking it.
    True, but that was not specified. Gut feeling only, but I think the players best course of action is not to double or split, evaluate the house edge with the rule set in place, and to make a decision accordingly. Still will be off, but at least it will get you 8n th3 right area. Might look it up in a few minutes, but kinda sorta think I’d rather play 6:5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smallcapgrowth View Post
    I just need to determine what it does to the house edge. I can do many things on this game. But I need to find out what this rule does. I can figure everything g else out myself.
    No doubling or splitting will increase house edge by 2.05%. The rules described will affect that. Beyond this, you’re on your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    No doubling or splitting will increase house edge by 2.05%. The rules described will affect that. Beyond this, you’re on your own.
    Though in this case I think you would only want the detriment from no splitting.

    From what he said, you still get paid in full for doubles, just not splits or doubles after splits

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountinCanadian View Post
    Though in this case I think you would only want the detriment from no splitting.

    From what he said, you still get paid in full for doubles, just not splits or doubles after splits
    If you’re right about doubles without splitting pay full value, the; you’re correct - which means SCG really has to clarify what he means.

    SCG, move north of the 49th, and try the Queen’s English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    It doesn’t matter what he wrote - what he means is self evident. I’m not going to bother to figure it out. The only relevance is that it’s not worthwhile.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by smallcapgrowth View Post
    Splits and doubles after split only get paid 1.5 percent of original wager.

    for example you bet 100 and you split two 8s vs 7. Get 2 18s and dealer has 17. Normally you would win 200 bucks . In this senario you only get paid 150 bucks.

    next senario

    100 dollar bet, you get two 8s vs dealer 7 and you split and get a 3 for 11 and double down and get 21. This senario happens on both split hands so you would normal get paid 4 original bets for 400 and in this game it’s only 150.


    can someone try to tell me what this does to the house edge.
    It would be like a rule that says you can't do defensive splits or double after split, since splitting would always mean you are risking at least two units to win at most 1.5 units. You might still split eights but I doubt it for most dealer up-cards. What if you split to three hands and won 2 of them? Would you still get 1.5 units rather than the 1 unit you would normally get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smallcapgrowth View Post
    I just need to determine what it does to the house edge. I can do many things on this game. But I need to find out what this rule does. I can figure everything g else out myself.

    That is unfavorable rule and I can modify my program to simulate it. However, I guess there must be other favorable rules to compensate it, please tell the complete rules if you want help from others.

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