Anyone new to blackjack or just play without counting?

[Demigod1980]

Obviously i am new and when reading through this thread as time goes on, i am definitely a ploppy but i do play basic strategy, still a ploppy though.

I started with $1,000. Yes it took a few months.

So with basic strategy and using a partial flat bet until i make a profit then betting bigger with that profit. Quitting shoes after 2k wins and going home, coming back 2 weeks later and doing it again. 1st, 2nd, 3rd fridays i was up 1k to 2k each time. After that i would hit 4k and that is usually the sweet spot now for me to stop. Now i am at $19,775 in two envelops. I am not counting at all, unless its just a freak thing that maybe my bet was timed on the nose without me knowing because i wouldn't know anyway about counting. Seems to work for me but i am sure that big loss is around the corning, but i hope not.

I have left the casino a couple of times due to the dealer one upping the whole table. I would just pack up and leave. Hmmmmm

But, like i said, i play basic strategy very strictly and i don't bat an eye when hitting a 16 hand, splitting 8's against dealers 10, doubling a soft 18, etc etc.

I always play 100 minimum, 4 deck, always hand shuffled.

So here is my question now....what the hell am i doing right, is it basic strategy or am i just getting lucky and leaving at the right time? I have had a 3k downswing where i didnt win a hand but i just flat betted that, stopped, grabbed a bite to eat, and went back later and got back that 3k and made about 2.5k on top of that.

I honestly dont get it.

[CountinCanadian]

I'd quit while you're ahead, asap. Eventually you will lose it all if you keep playing pure basic strategy.

Right now it's just pure variance. In other words, you're incredibly lucky.

[jimmybond007]

Either stop playing now or be destined to lose it all back. OR... learn to count cards and truly win over the long term. You have enough of a bankroll to get started.

[Ryemo]

I agree with jimmybond007. You’ve experienced positive variance up until this point, but you will inevitably lose it all back eventually if you keep playing the way you do.

My advice: Stop playing right now. Get some good books, purchase Norm's software, and start studying. You’re up almost 20K? That’s a perfect starting bankroll for a recreational player. Learn how to count and play with an advantage; then maybe you can turn that 20K into a whole lot more! But I would advise you to not play a single hand of blackjack until you study up. You can purchase Casino Verité from Qfit.com and you play/practice blackjack with that software while you perfect your skills.

A Warning: If you continue to play the way you do now, you are almost 100% guaranteed to lose it all back over time. Do yourself a favor and start studying. Good luck!

[Stealth]

I honestly dont get it.

You have been very lucky!

If you play a typical 4 deck game for 100 table hours with a $100 flat bet using basic strategy you have a 100% risk of ruin.

The assumed house edge (your disadvantage) is about .5% with good rules.

Learn to count or quit and use your 20K for a nice vacation.

[ZeeBabar]

Agree with Stealth. Given the BS on this forum, you may think counting and winning is difficult, that you need to put in mega hours of practiice, buy software, read a ton of books and forums, know what NO is, know what SCORE is, what optimal betting is, study money management and BR requirements, learn deviations and more.

All that may be true if you want to make a living playing BJ but you will manage to stay even just learning a simple count (HiLo took me under a couple of hours with a deck of cards) and knowing you get more when the count is positive, the minimum when negative. If it gets too negative you quit the show and simply bet more the more positive the deck. With a bit of luck, you may even win and then you can learn more stuff if time permits.

[Freightman]

Agree with Stealth. Given the BS on this forum, you may think counting and winning is difficult, that you need to put in mega hours of practiice, buy software, read a ton of books and forums, know what NO is, know what SCORE is, what optimal betting is, study money management and BR requirements, learn deviations and more.

All that may be true if you want to make a living playing BJ but you will manage to stay even just learning a simple count (HiLo took me under a couple of hours with a deck of cards) and knowing you get more when the count is positive, the minimum when negative. If it gets too negative you quit the show and simply bet more the more positive the deck. With a bit of luck, you may even win and then you can learn more stuff if time permits.

Some may think you need to relieve the hot air.
https://youtu.be/PSKQ3ZNQ_O8

[Three]

Zee, knowledge about n0 and BR management is most important for the player playing with a tiny BR. Lacking this knowledge greatly increases the odds they will lose their entire BR. If you play to a tiny RoR (have a huge B for what you are betting) these concepts are important but they are not vital to survival like they are for the BR challenged individuals.

[Demigod1980]

I think my money management is really good but i will buy in for a thousand and once i make a thousand i will leave or take a break depending if i stay the night there. I dont know about betting system as i pay no attention to them, i have read about them but most didnt make sense..

For example, i may flat bet for a few hands in the beginning and if its really back and forth i will keep flat betting. If i win 3 in a row with or without doubles i bet more but only when making a profit. Sometimes i can get up to $500 bets doing that. Usually after a few of those big bets i will automatically brimg my bet down to table minimum and flat bet a few more $100's and continue.

As for bank roll management i dont know but if i lose 1k or sl i take a break for a bit. A few times i was only gambling for 15 to 20 minutes before i hit my $1,000. Now if i get up to lets say $1,200, i put aside the 1k and use the $200, if i lose that $200, then i go home, if i lkeep winning past that $200 i keep going. So it took a couple of months and a few quick games to get up to that point of my bankroll. I am a junkie when it comes to doing a nice big bet and that suspense really drives me.

Oddly enough, i had a host introduce herself to me two weeks ago and never had that before either.

[Sharky]

...Oddly enough, i had a host introduce herself to me two weeks ago and never had that before either.

nothing odd about that...they evaluated your play, and see you are playing a losing game...they want your business

[21forme]

I think my money management is really good

No matter how you manage your money, you're still playing a losing game. There's no money management system that can overcome the odds of the game, which the way you play, are in the house's favor.

[CountinCanadian]

You're really lcky. Don't delude yourself into thinking it was because of any skill.

Now don't make the mistake of 99% of gamblers and keep playing, you'll lose it all back like they do.

Stop for good. Or learn to count, but learn for real. Then you can start again

[Stealth]

I think my money management is really good but i will buy in for a thousand and once i make a thousand i will leave or take a break depending if i stay the night there.

Demi, I do not mean to be disrespectful, but your post is indicative of how naive you are regarding the financial managment of a bankroll used for blackjack. I am actually trying to help you, but you must be willing to listen and to help yourself.

You have a gamblers perspective about money management and have no idea what you are doing.

When, in my previous post, I said you have a 100% chance of going broke within 100 hours of table time with your 19,000, I was not kidding.

All that play until I win or lose an amount and take a break when they are running bad is unmitigated bullshit. Your actions are that of a gambler and a continuation of this play will get you your reward.

And, finally, either learn to count or recognize you are a gambler and the money you use is for entertainment. Or quit, but if you have no intention of listening to those here who have experience then stop posting your silly perspectivevs.