Is betting cover necessary for shoe games?

[Sharky]

His max bet = 2x275 according to post #8.

ok...i see now...thx...but he starts w/ 2 hands @25....NO COVER FOR YOU!!!

[cottage cheese]

ok...i see now...thx...but he starts w/ 2 hands @25....NO COVER FOR YOU!!!

Come back one year?

So you think cover isn't necessary because my EV isn't high enough? Yes, I start with two hands but drop to one or none depending on count. Freightman seems to think cover would help me. Argghhh. Do I listen to the great white or the conductor?

[CountinCanadian]

Come back one year?

So you think cover isn't necessary because my EV isn't high enough? Yes, I start with two hands but drop to one or none depending on count. Freightman seems to think cover would help me. Argghhh. Do I listen to the great white or the conductor?

If you have the BR to simply add variance, at no cost to EV, think about betting patterns you can do in the neutral counts to change your image, be creative

[Sharky]

..... Argghhh. Do I listen to the great white or the conductor?

Spread 1-13 with $25 unit on 6-8 deck shoe game is, no offense, "child's play"

[Freightman]

Spread 1-13 with $25 unit on 6-8 deck shoe game is, no offense, "child's play"

Actually, done right, 1-16 can make you look like an idiot, but be very effective. So can 1-13, with excellent results given proper skill set.

[Sharky]

Actually, done right, 1-16 can make you look like an idiot, but be very effective. So can 1-13, with excellent results given proper skill set.

A silly waste of my time

[Freightman]

A silly waste of my time

Have it your way!

[Meistro123]

What is the difference between cover and deception?

Cover is deception. You are trying to deceive people who are watching into thinking that you are not a card counter.

[Stealth]

Cover is a necessary component of the advantage players game if he they have any concern for longevity.

If you are so oblivous to think that pit/surveillance has no recognition of a 1-13, 16, whatever, spread then you will soon be playing elsewhere.

It is my opinion that a well designed cover game (+EV is understood and planned) is more important to your long term earnings than technical issues around counts and indexes. Beyond being a recreational player, this game is 75% getting away with it!


OSN if full of players whose game has this deficit.

Now, if you want to come to Vegas and fire away for the weekend, then have at it, but do not be surprised with your backoff and "flyer" that curtails your activities.

[mcallister3200]

IMO, if you need cover at under 2x300 AND less than 1-20 spread on a shoe game, you should find a better place to play.

[ZeeBabar]

IMO, if you need cover at under 2x300 AND less than 1-20 spread on a shoe game, you should find a better place to play.

Less than 10% of all casinos in the USA (not just Vegas) will completely overlook that spread and max bet if you attempted it entirely without cover on most days (except busy weekend evenings). Most of us playing in local casinos have to settle for less.

[Sharky]

Less than 10% of all casinos in the USA (not just Vegas) will completely overlook that spread and max bet if you attempted it entirely without cover on most days (except busy weekend evenings). Most of us playing in local casinos have to settle for less.

I have much different experiences....all over the country, sans vegas and ac...duh...lol...

Please let me know number of times you have been backed off and/or trespassed with 1-12 spread on $25 6-8 deck shoe game

Thanks!

[mcallister3200]

Just Make sure you’re actually going to get out of your cover what you want. I think many people use limited anecdotal evidence to tell themselves what they want to hear about the effectiveness of their cover.