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    At the same time, if there's someone who knows what they're doing, the casino still wouldn't want to lose their action. So they make most of their tables garbage for the suckers, but offer some good ones for the real players who would refuse to play 6/5 or some junk, and just monitor it closely for counters.

    Then again, then why not just make that CSM.

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    A « real player » is AP, isn’t he ?
    i really don’t get the logic of this casino
    or perhaps he makes advertising on the rules of the best table, and as it’s always full, if people want to play they have to lose their money on the shit csm games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letangs View Post
    A « real player » is AP, isn’t he ?
    i really don’t get the logic of this casino
    or perhaps he makes advertising on the rules of the best table, and as it’s always full, if people want to play they have to lose their money on the shit csm games.
    Generally, but I could, in my mind, consider a perfect BS player who is mindful of rules and house edge, who milks comps a real player. At least compared to most. This is all relative

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    I don’t know ...
    I believe anyone who took time to get informations on BS, house edge depending on rules, would either have started learning how to count, or just wouldn’t play at all ...
    why would you play a game you have no edge at, if you’re not a gambler ?

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    Unsure of why folks would play the shit games MGM has in this new place. There are better games at Schenectady, Resorts and more. MGM may be a great place to visit and have dinner and a show, but their BJ games are substandard at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paymypush View Post
    If I had a good reason. Does anyone else feel that way?
    Every AP in east coast will come to play these eight tables. You will make local AP super mad.

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    He has burned the game. It is just a matter of time. Good conditions will completely disappear with people "helping" like this. Will people never learn. They think they are helping but they are destroying exploitable BJ in modern times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letangs View Post
    You really think they would have set special tables with good rules just to trap counters ?
    It does not take a rocket scientist to figure this one out. MGM Springfield casino in matters of blackjack is represented in extremes. From horrendous rules to the best with nothing else in between. What other logical conclusions can someone surmise other than FISHY? I am also surprised there is no in-between dollar amount pit on the good tables, as it goes from $25 minimum tables pit to $100 dollar and up pit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    He has burned the game. It is just a matter of time. Good conditions will completely disappear with people "helping" like this. Will people never learn. They think they are helping but they are destroying exploitable BJ in modern times.
    Oh boo hoo. This is MGM not some hole in the wall. They don't make decisions based on what somebody posts on a forum. The information gets out there one way or the other.

    Did you guys ever read the Wizard of Vegas Blackjack Survey? It has the penetration for every table at every casino. I found a secret restroom, too, but I'm keeping that to myself.

    Yup, all the airports are backed up with APs trying to get to Springfield. Here's some more "help." Springfield doesn't have an airport. Try Hartford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paymypush View Post
    Oh boo hoo. This is MGM not some hole in the wall. They don't make decisions based on what somebody posts on a forum.
    Don't concern yourself about this, after all, you have MidWest Player backing you up.
    Last edited by BoSox; 08-26-2018 at 10:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paymypush View Post
    Oh boo hoo. This is MGM not some hole in the wall. They don't make decisions based on what somebody posts on a forum. The information gets out there one way or the other.
    You missed the point. I said it is a matter of time. If you understood what is going to happen the casino makes no decision based on your post, but the post set in motion what will burn the game. No APs with big BRs will start showing up and winning big until each one gets backed off. Teams will show up and get away with play for even longer beating the crap out of the game. The will get backed off eventually perhaps. But eventually the casino will, l get tired of bleeding money to APs and making all their personnel work harder to spot APs and will change the game. Your comments are really noobish. Obviously people know better than to tell you about great games. If you have played great games you will have seen this happen many times.

    Nobody would have to explain it to you and you would think those that were dumb enough to put this type of information in an open forum instead of networking it to others than can scout and share their finds are idiots for not knowing how to protect good games and not knowing the value of networking with a small group of other APs. Now the people that know about it won't try to milk it which would allow you to milk it. They will try to burn it down before someone else does because they know someone will burn the game and cause the casino to change things so they might as well be that person. There were great DD games on the East Coast but they never last long because someone always hits the game for mid six figures before the casino knows how to protect it. Rather than train their employees they just make the game unplayable or get rid of it. Now wich one of these two are you hoping to accomplish? Getting rid of the hand shuffled deep pen games and having them have bad pen or seeing them all go to shuffle machines or have the rules go to shit or any combination of the above. What you set in motion guarantees things will change eventually. It is just a matter of time.

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    Twin River in Tiverton RI is opening on Sept 1. It will be a lot smaller than MGM Springfield which, as casinos go, is not all that big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paymypush View Post
    Oh boo hoo. This is MGM not some hole in the wall. They don't make decisions based on what somebody posts on a forum. The information gets out there one way or the other.

    Did you guys ever read the Wizard of Vegas Blackjack Survey? It has the penetration for every table at every casino. I found a secret restroom, too, but I'm keeping that to myself.

    Yup, all the airports are backed up with APs trying to get to Springfield. Here's some more "help." Springfield doesn't have an airport. Try Hartford.
    Is it the secret private bathroom at NYNY? That's a good one.

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