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    Alpha Zero, the new chess bot monster thinks about chess in a totally different way - in this game it thinks nothing of sacrificing 3 pawns on its' way to totally crushing Stockfish, the previously most powerful bot

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    Any 'fishcakes' who would like to play backgammon;
    for moderately high stakes, say $100 / point ... ?




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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post


    Any 'fishcakes' who would like to play backgammon;
    for moderately high stakes, say $100 / point ... ?



    If only I knew how to play

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    I suggest that you ask Munchkin, or his brother about
    how much you would probably lose to me in the course of a day.
    I know them both, though I haven't played with Jake or Munch
    in a very long time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post

    I suggest that you ask Munchkin, or his brother about
    how much you would probably lose to me in the course of a day.
    I know them both, though I haven't played with Jake or Munch
    in a very long time.

    Then why don't you start a thread to brag about your backgammon prowess since that was your intent all along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by therefinery View Post
    Then why don't you start a thread to brag about your backgammon prowess since that was your intent all along.


    Nothing to brag about. I am a sub-1800 rated player. That is an ELO rating in Chess of ?

    Chess is a simple game relative to Backgammon, which is a game that is dependent

    upon compound probabilities, etc. rather than the ability to see X moves into the future

    along varying paths.


    5,000 yrs. after its birth, only NEURAL NETS can play at a true Expert Level.

    It is a favored game of actuaries and mathematicians, etc.

    Backgammon Tournaments look like a faculty meeting at MIT. LOL

    My purpose was to counter absurd notions that backgammon is a child's game.



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    for entertainment I play these 3 bots against each other, rotating;
    at their highest levels they are roughly equal to Grandmasters
    it's really fascinating to see some of the brilliant moves they make
    at first you say WTF is this? then 2 moves later you see its' brilliancy
    of course, I cannot compete well against these bots myself at their highest levels
    but it is very entertaining


    https://www.chess.com/play/computer

    https://nextchessmove.com/

    https://lichess.org/KHixqFko



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    Chess is a simple game relative to Backgammon

    re chess vs. backgammon I found this comment on another forum:

    "The role of luck in backgammon is so large that a brand new player can easily beat a world champion in any game of backgammon. That has never happened in chess."

    I found this ranking of these various games in terms of complexity level on this linked site:


    Compexity Numbers


    Go 40
    Chess 14
    Scrabble 10
    Backgammon 8
    No-limit hold’em 8
    Checkers 8


    https://thegammonpress.com/comparing...-skill-chance/


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    Using the betting cube is what takes backgammon to a higher level. Knowing the probabilities is also what separates the pros from the amateurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by therefinery View Post
    Then why don't you start a thread to brag about your backgammon prowess since that was your intent all along.
    This

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post


    Any 'fishcakes' who would like to play backgammon;
    for moderately high stakes, say $100 / point ... ?




    I'll play you for $10 / point.

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