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    How to Emotionally deal when increasing your Max Bet

    Hi Guys,
    I have one more important questions that I think relates to any AP in the forum,
    supposed after a big win or accumulated wins your bankroll has increase significantly,
    your max bet has increased lets say from 100$ to 300$,
    your are in table playing, and suddenly the TC is now +4,+5 and it's time to put your max bet out.
    How do you emotionally deals with putting 300$ instead of putting 100$ on the table.
    Any thought about this subject ?
    The simplest answer is probably playing like a robot according to half/quarter Kelly scale.
    How do you emotionally train your brain to overcome the adjustment ?
    I hope that i did clarify my question,

    Thanks for sharing.
    Kripton

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    Good question and its hard to describe it. You will hear humiliating comments from the Pros but I understand your question. While intellectually, one can understand that putting more on the table in favorable counts will get you more money, its hard when your first increased max bet is a loss, second one too. On the other hand, if you are lucky and the first few times you have success, you feel much better and it comes easier. My problem was, and still is, that sometimes I underbet in great situations. Overcoming my frugal personality has been the issue.

    I would advise you to go slow, have a significant Bank Roll before putting out a $300 max bet. Moreover, if you are playing a $10 or $25 minimum game and your starting shoe bet is the minimum, a $300 max bet is not okay for a DD game but may be okay in a 6 deck game if the casino is tolerant. I keep my DD spread to 1-6 and my 6 deck bet to 1-10 for longevity purposes. However, increasing the intermediate bets at an earlier count helps.

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    You would have to have a real significant win to have your bankroll go from a max bet of $100 to $300. If you wake up one day and realize the BR says you should be at $300, you likely have been asleep at the wheel re: betting in recent sessions. I agree with Zee. Go from $100 to $150 first. The mental part is significant; once you can handle the $150, then go to $200. Like he says, the pros may disagree with this but if the bankroll says one thing but the brain says another, you are better off erring on the side of caution. Anybody can handle the wins. The tough part is handling the losses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kripton View Post
    How do you emotionally deals with putting 300$ instead of putting 100$ on the table.
    It is not an emotional question, it is a procedural one.

    If you have prepared correctly, you just do what your training says.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleDownSoft21 View Post
    I agree with Zee. Go from $100 to $150 first. The mental part is significant; once you can handle the $150, then go to $200. Like he says, the pros may disagree with this but if the bankroll says one thing but the brain says another, you are better off erring on the side of caution. Anybody can handle the wins. The tough part is handling the losses.
    Anyone who cannot deal with variance properly should find another pastime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth View Post
    It is not an emotional question, it is a procedural one.

    If you have prepared correctly, you just do what your training says.

    In other words, it’s okay to look like you’re on tilt - it’s not okay to be on tilt

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Anyone who cannot deal with variance properly should find another pastime.
    Is going from a max bet of $100 to $300 sizing their bets correctly? Probably not. They were likely either underbetting previously, or overbetting now.

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    Raise your stakes gradually. Over time, as your bankroll grows, you will start to grow numb to the larger swings that inevitably come with playing higher stakes. If your level of play increases slowly, the variance will be less likely to emotionally shock you.

    Keep in mind that it’s all relative in terms of how you emotionally handle variance. A 5-figure negative swing will not have nearly the same impact on someone who is operating with a 6-figure bankroll, as opposed to how it might impact somebody who is operating on a 30K bankroll, for example.

    So what’s the moral of the story? Play to a risk that you’re comfortable with in accordance to the size of your bankroll. If you do that, you’ll never think twice about pushing out your max bet when the time comes, as you shouldn’t.
    Last edited by Ryemo; 08-14-2018 at 12:32 PM.

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    Something that helps me is, when possible, to spread horizontally, not just vertically. Instead of putting $300 on one hand, put $200 on each of two hands. Or $150 on each of three hands. Your risk stays about the same, your EV goes up, and it can be emotionally easier.

    Exception is in head-to-head play when this is mathematically not ideal (except in the last round). Or when it will draw too much heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus Prime View Post
    Something that helps me is, when possible, to spread horizontally, not just vertically. Instead of putting $300 on one hand, put $200 on each of two hands. Or $150 on each of three hands. Your risk stays about the same, your EV goes up, and it can be emotionally easier.

    Exception is in head-to-head play when this is mathematically not ideal (except in the last round). Or when it will draw too much heat.
    Spreading to two hands headsup is not mathematically idea? Why not? Also, I know that when you spread to two hands you should be playing more than if you're playing one, but let's say you don't, does that significantly lower your EV (let's say 1x600 vs 2x300)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleDownSoft21 View Post
    Is going from a max bet of $100 to $300 sizing their bets correctly? Probably not. They were likely either underbetting previously, or overbetting now.
    Perhaps, but not necessarily, they may be using a bet structure that provides cover while maintaining acceptable EV at the cost of higher variance.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cottage cheese View Post
    Spreading to two hands headsup is not mathematically idea? Why not? Also, I know that when you spread to two hands you should be playing more than if you're playing one, but let's say you don't, does that significantly lower your EV (let's say 1x600 vs 2x300)?
    In the case of 1X600 versus 2X300, with the two hands your EV is the same and your variance is reduced from the 1X600by about 25%.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus Prime View Post
    Something that helps me is, when possible, to spread horizontally, not just vertically. Instead of putting $300 on one hand, put $200 on each of two hands. Or $150 on each of three hands. Your risk stays about the same, your EV goes up, and it can be emotionally easier.

    Exception is in head-to-head play when this is mathematically not ideal (except in the last round). Or when it will draw too much heat.
    Though remember when not heads up, playing 2 hands with the advantage is good, but going above 2 is not ideal. Unless it's the last hand of a shoe of course and a high count

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