6:5 Blackjack

**G Man** · 08-08-2018, 12:09 PM

Bjarg,

Not surprisingly noting has been done yet, just look at the Trolls answers on this single thread...

Stupids are everywhere!

**Three** · 08-08-2018, 12:55 PM

Around where I play the 6:5 tables are usually deserted. We educated the ploppies a long time ago. Some will just throw their money away on anything but most are smart enough to not play games that have gotten worse once the difference is pointed out to them.

**Jabberwocky** · 08-08-2018, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Three

Around where I play the 6:5 tables are usually deserted. We educated the ploppies a long time ago. Some will just throw their money away on anything but most are smart enough to not play games that have gotten worse once the difference is pointed out to them.

Actually, the St.Jude Count was devised by AM to defeat 6-5 pitch games. The better players know this but the lesser ones don't-that's why they bitch and complain when they encounter them and denigrate players that do play them.

**Three** · 08-08-2018, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Jabberwocky

Actually, the St.Jude Count was devised by AM to defeat 6-5 pitch games. The better players know this but the lesser ones don't-that's why they bitch and complain when they encounter them and denigrate players that do play them.

I know. I didn't want to call him ignorant but he was showing his ignorance on what was some of the best opportunities in the casino for counting. AM doesn't release things to the public unless he doesn't find them useful anymore. That was when the play was getting played out. Either that or he developed a better approach. I don't know why people think they should be handed more advanced methods or that they should be vetted in front of the casino lurkers. That is why the best stuff never hits the boards. The players in the know just leave bread crumbs for others to follow up on with their own research. Spelling things out for all just exposes plays and generates countermeasures and worse games.

**Jabberwocky** · 08-08-2018, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Three

I know. I didn't want to call him ignorant but he was showing his ignorance on what was some of the best opportunities in the casino for counting. AM doesn't release things to the public unless he doesn't find them useful anymore. That was when the play was getting played out. Either that or he developed a better approach. I don't know why people think they should be handed more advanced methods or that they should be vetted in front of the casino lurkers. That is why the best stuff never hits the boards. The players in the know just leave bread crumbs for others to follow up on with their own research. Spelling things out for all just exposes plays and generates countermeasures and worse games.

It still requires a massive spread to give it utility. Hence it's name, "St. Jude"-the patron saint of lost causes.

**cc12b** · 08-08-2018, 03:16 PM

I/We should understand that if someone know how to make money on 6/5 bj s/he would not/should not reveal to public. If it was you would you do it?

**G Man** · 08-08-2018, 03:22 PM

Instead of bla bla bla, why don’t you give us numbers like EV and C-Score?

Then explain how much you made in your freaking dreams...

Once this is done, explain to the masses how good is 6:5 BJ

Should have known better before posting this, Norm has lost control over the Trolls polluting his forum.

**G Man** · 08-08-2018, 03:24 PM

«*We should understand that if someone know how to make money on 6/5 bj s/he would not/should not reveal to public. If it was you would you do it?*»

Yes this is what they all say...
Dice pitchers, roulette freak, they run on a positive SD and think they have a system...

**Three** · 08-08-2018, 03:33 PM

I don't know why people want plays they don't understand exposed to all the casino lurkers. You have to be an idiot if you don't understand how 6:5 was beatable. And that when the casino figured out people were beating the shit out of it that it started to see heat rather than no oversight and pen went down from 98%+ to the shit you see today.

**bjarg** · 08-08-2018, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Three

I don't know why people want plays they don't understand exposed to all the casino lurkers. You have to be an idiot if you don't understand how 6:5 was beatable. And that when the casino figured out people were beating the shit out of it that it started to see heat rather than no oversight and pen went down from 98%+ to the shit you see today.

In las vegas when 6:5 started penetration was 98%?

In any case, the real question here is if blackjack in the long term and as a sustainable source of income for an AP would be better with 6:5 or without it.
I think the answer is pretty obvious and thats why I think what Gman is trying to do is a good thing.

**Jabberwocky** · 08-08-2018, 04:03 PM

If you think 6-5 is so awful, wait until the games go full CSM!

**Three** · 08-08-2018, 04:25 PM

Heat is a factor in determining counting opportunity. That isn't being factored in by some people who just have a fascination with stats rater than real world play.

**cc12b** · 08-08-2018, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by bjarg

I think the answer is pretty obvious and thats why I think what Gman is trying to do is a good thing.

Originally Posted by G Man

Should have known better before posting this, Norm has lost control over the Trolls polluting his forum.

Originally Posted by Three

I don't know why people want plays they don't understand exposed to all the casino lurkers. You have to be an idiot if you don't understand how 6:5 was beatable. And that when the casino figured out people were beating the shit out of it that it started to see heat rather than no oversight and pen went down from 98%+ to the shit you see today.

I agree with all of these posts. I do not have system but common sense let me think no body would reveal his/her way to the public. How about any of you?