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    At what true count are 3 max bets justified?

    I'm playing some games where 2xtable max is triggered at +4 true and above. I ran CVCX sims and it's appropriate (don't get too excited, table max is low black). I'm bummed out bc technically my bets at true +4 and true +15 or above are the same. At what true count would increasing to 3 hands of table max be the right call (I know 3 hands is inefficient as it eats more cards).

    Is throwing 3 hands of table max for me the right move even at true +4 if it's the last round of a deeply cut deck?

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    Switching to 3 spots of table max has to be a huge red flag. I d o not hear any consideration for longevity. If not concerned about longevity then fire it up to three x max although I would be looking for alternative means to get the EV. Wonging out aggressively at TC-1 mgiht be one.

    Not sure where your table max is relative to your optimal max bet.
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    If you want to play three hands than you should bet 60% of what you would bet on each hand if you were playing one hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth View Post
    Switching to 3 spots of table max has to be a huge red flag.....

    Oh it's right up there with salivating as far as tells go

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    ...and my spread is a close 3rd....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meistro123 View Post
    If you want to play three hands than you should bet 60% of what you would bet on each hand if you were playing one hand.
    60% is the proper bet size for 3 hands, taking covariance into account. However, if constrained by table max, and total wagered is in line with bankroll, the table max on all 3 hands is not only acceptable, but preferable.

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    U would do 3 spots if it's the last hand of the shoe coming up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    U would do 3 spots if it's the last hand of the shoe coming up.
    I'm reasonably sure you didn't mean what you wrote!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    U would do 3 spots if it's the last hand of the shoe coming up.
    ...and i was fittin' to split

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    Well, I first posted this while I was listening to GWAE. I went back and reread the OP. If you have a big count AND you know the next round is when the cut card will appear, I would go to 3 hands. If the count isn't huge but still +EV, I'd do 3 hands and reduce the size of each bet appropriately (as above). Am I too tored from a long day and missing something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmatian View Post
    I think Don was implying that you wrote a player should play 3 hands at the end of every shoe?
    No, he wrote to play three hands if you knew it was the last hand OF THE SHOE COMING UP! "The shoe coming up" is the new shoe AFTER THIS one is over!!

    What he meant to write is to play three hands if you know that the last round of the current shoe is coming up (of course!).

    Just teasing. Do you see how the original way can be misinterpreted? To be unambiguous, he should have written, "if you knew that the last hand of the shoe was coming up."

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    The optimal number of boxes, if you play alone at the table - 1 or 2 boxes.
    If there is one foreign box at the table, it's best to bet on 2 boxes.
    If there are 2 foreign boxes at the table, it is best to bet on 3 boxes.
    If there are 3 foreign boxes at the table, it is best to put on 4 boxes.
    If the number of foreign boxes at the table is not constant with a high positive account, it is best to take all the free boxes.
    "Don't Cast Your Pearls Before Swine" (Jesus)

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    what is a foreign box?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiderman View Post
    what is a foreign box?
    it's freaks Google translate.
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