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    Asking to See the Burn Card

    I played at a table with another guy who was definitely not a counter (wild betting type) When the dealer shuffled and burned the card, he asked to see it and the dealer showed us. I thought "well that's kinda nice." ... I hadn't seen that before... probably not a great move for a counter to pull though, eh? Any APs ever do this? Probably not I'm guessing.

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    From my understanding, it’s an Asian culture superstition. Depending on what the burn card is depends on how “lucky” they will be on that shoe.

    Ian Andersen explains this in his book “Burning The Tables in Las Vegas” and how it can actually be used as a form of cover.

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    I've seen various places be rather loose about revealing the burn card when smeone asks - but that is mostly for 6 and 8-deck games. The real trick is how to get that info in a DD game, where they are much more reluctant to show the burn card for good reason.

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    I prefer asking to see the dealers hole card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MercySakesAlive View Post
    I played at a table with another guy who was definitely not a counter (wild betting type) When the dealer shuffled and burned the card, he asked to see it and the dealer showed us. I thought "well that's kinda nice." ... I hadn't seen that before... probably not a great move for a counter to pull though, eh? Any APs ever do this? Probably not I'm guessing.
    Most places will not show the burn card even if you ask. However, some places will. I have asked to see the burn card already. I can only think of maybe two places where they would show it to you, and I'm not welcome at one of them anymore. And the place that did show the burn card had an S17 DD game with 80% to 85% pen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpe View Post
    From my understanding, it’s an Asian culture superstition. Depending on what the burn card is depends on how “lucky” they will be on that shoe.

    Ian Andersen explains this in his book “Burning The Tables in Las Vegas” and how it can actually be used as a form of cover.
    The man who asked to see the burn card was Asian actually. Thanks, I had never heard of this superstition.

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    Do not ask to see the burn card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MercySakesAlive View Post
    I played at a table with another guy who was definitely not a counter (wild betting type) When the dealer shuffled and burned the card, he asked to see it and the dealer showed us. I thought "well that's kinda nice." ... I hadn't seen that before... probably not a great move for a counter to pull though, eh? Any APs ever do this? Probably not I'm guessing.
    I've never asked to see the burn card. This topic recently came up on bjinfo.
    I think it can bring unwanted attention and make you memorable, which is not a good thing.





    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpe View Post
    From my understanding, it’s an Asian culture superstition. Depending on what the burn card is depends on how “lucky” they will be on that shoe.
    Where i play, a lot of the crowd is predominantly asian and i have never even seen them or anyone for that matter asking to see the burn card.
    I never knew that this was one of their strange superstitions.

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    You don't know what you don't know. I have seen people asked a few times but i don't think it is a superstition that is among Asian.

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    It is an Asian susperstition; at least according to Ian Andersen.

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    LOL. yes he is an expert on blackjack but not on culture. after thinking more about it , if 51% of people that use the burn card to determine if it is a lucky shoe then i would have to say Mr . Anderson's statement is valid. i just don't agree that most people that see the burn card use it in that way.
    Last edited by stopgambling; 07-01-2018 at 04:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpe View Post
    It is an Asian susperstition; at least according to Ian Andersen.
    Really? A lot of Asian players in my local casinos but I never see anyone ask for burn card at BJ tables. One of the casino shows the burn cards for easy Baccarat, they pulled the 1st cards then use that as how many cards they should burn like if the 1st card was 2 they burn 2 cards, if it was 10/face they remove 10 cards, face up. I personally do not think it effect my play as we know the count will meaningful at close to cut card.

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    Hey, I threw out my two cents on the topic in which the OP asked if anyone has heard of asking to see the burn card. I recently read Ian Andersen’s book “Burning The Tables in Las Vegas” and he actually talked about this topic, which I also found interesting.

    I won’t go into much detail but there is a chapter in the book called “The High Roller”. In this section he describes the characteristics of the high roll gambler. He apparently studied their actions because he wanted to seem like a “gambler” rather than an advantage player.

    He noticed the majority of these high rollers were Asian and they had quite a few superstitions while gambling; one of which was the burn card. If the burn card was an 8, then this was supposed to be a lucky shoe.

    I’m not claiming Ian Andersen is an “expert” in Asian culture. Simply explaining my understanding on this subject.. take it or leave it.

    Cheers!

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