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    Clarfication needed on the closed thread about Exoter and Ryemo

    In that thread I made one post #19 that said:

    Originally Posted by Norm
    Well, my patience has run out. IP banned and reported.



    Why do you always have to tell everyone what is supposedly taking place behind the scenes? Should that not be a personal matter and dealt with accordingly? I think it is rather childish behavior in attempting "that is how it appears" to influence others who are for the most part uninformed, and often take a neutral position, into taking sides like a sandlot pickup game. You are like the house, who makes all the decisions, regardless of whatever the rest of us think anyway, it does not matter.


    Originally Posted by Norm
    Damned if I know why RS and Bosox support this guy.



    I can only speculate about whom you are talking, and would rather not respond to conjecture.

    Continuing:

    I was not talking about Ryemo, he was not banned!

    Ryemo, not for one second did I ever think you outed anyone I have too much respect for you to think that. Evidently, part of the above quote by me was taken out of context on another site, and I want to clear this up now.

    Because it is people like you, and 21frome that keep me returning. I do not agree with all the bashing you are both receiving.


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    What you should think about is that when you have insider knowledge on something you get to rate a site and posters. Is the site not worth your time because all its speculative posts are BS and wrong. What about that vetting of individual posters. When they speculate do they say it is speculation or try to lead you to believe it is a fact. After all you know it is false. learning not to listen to toxic and unreliable people and sights will be a very healthy move and help you learn faster. When they start talking about people it is not like BJ where sims paint comparisons in black and white and casino play is a different matter with so many variables to interact into your counts strengths and weaknesses. There are areas of opinion when talking about people but some things are just facts. You know the difference in many cases and can use that to vet who is worth listening to and who you should ignore. You an apply that to forums as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    In that thread I made one post #19 that said:

    Originally Posted by Norm
    Well, my patience has run out. IP banned and reported.



    Why do you always have to tell everyone what is supposedly taking place behind the scenes? Should that not be a personal matter and dealt with accordingly? I think it is rather childish behavior in attempting "that is how it appears" to influence others who are for the most part uninformed, and often take a neutral position, into taking sides like a sandlot pickup game. You are like the house, who makes all the decisions, regardless of whatever the rest of us think anyway, it does not matter.


    Originally Posted by Norm
    Damned if I know why RS and Bosox support this guy.



    I can only speculate about whom you are talking, and would rather not respond to conjecture.

    Continuing:

    I was not talking about Ryemo, he was not banned!

    Ryemo, not for one second did I ever think you outed anyone I have too much respect for you to think that. Evidently, part of the above quote by me was taken out of context on another site, and I want to clear this up now.

    Because it is people like you, and 21frome that keep me returning. I do not agree with all the bashing you are both receiving.

    I like the fact that Norm tells us when someone is banned and why. The rules of the board are posted. Now I think there have been a few posters who should not have been banned. I do think Norm has a heavy hand on that ban button.

    Anyway BoSox, in order to see the entire 61 page list of banned folks you have to be a paid member. It it listed under suggestions in the subscription forum. Sometimes Norm will also post this on free forum.

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    Thanks for the clarification BoSox.
    In regards to the person in question who was “outed;”

    1) His name had already been public. So technically, there was no outing.

    2) Said member had already been banned from this forum and was not a member of this forum (or at least he wasn’t supposed to be).

    3) Said member is extremely hypocritical. If you browse his YouTube channel, he has an entire video dedicated to outting another player by full name AND face. Why? Because they had beef with each other. And I’m not talking about Michael Morgenstern either. Go look for yourself. The videos are still there.

    For the record, I would never out another fellow AP, regardless of my personal feelings towards that person. If you need any further clarification, you’re more than welcome to PM me. Provide me an email and I can message you. But I see no reason to inflate the childish drama by creating anymore public posts. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Because it is people like you, and 21frome that keep me returning. I do not agree with all the bashing you are both receiving.
    Someone is bashing me? If so, it must be someone on my ignore list, because I haven't seen it. Details, please, and if you'd prefer to do it privately, email me at my handle at gmail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Someone is bashing me? If so, it must be someone on my ignore list, because I haven't seen it. Details, please, and if you'd prefer to do it privately, email me at my handle at gmail.
    21frome, I went back and looked "on another site" and it took me awhile and I did not find exactly what I was trying to find. Anyway, you are referred to in separate areas. I should not have used the word bashing in my first post as it was I believe only one person responding. What I did find was a reply to one of your post here that you made a reference to picking up something on Mt Sinai where the other person could not respond to which he has a point. What I was trying to find was an opinion expressed about your treatment of Zee. Suddenly there is a lot of material about BJTF on the site, locating something is not easy, sorry I could not be more helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Suddenly there is a lot of material about BJTF on the site, locating something is not easy, sorry I could not be more helpful.
    I guess we know where all the socks that got banned came from. They always go on a whining binge on other sites after they get banned. You would think that if being able to post here was so important to them then they would follow the posting guidelines to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    sorry I could not be more helpful.
    That's OK. I understand now. I thought you meant this site. I don't care what goes on there. It is a hangout for misanthropes.

    My interest in and patience for these forums has diminished over the years. Most threads I simply skip over if the title doesn't catch my interest, and of the threads I do read, there are a growing number of posters on my ignore list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox

    Originally Posted by Norm
    Damned if I know why RS and Bosox support this guy.


    I’m still not sure why Norm brought me up in that post. Even though I asked, no response from Norm — what gives?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    I like the fact that Norm tells us when someone is banned and why.
    Midwest Player, you do realize there are two sides to every story. You like the fact that you are hearing an incomplete story. Sorry, I am not impressed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Now I think there have been a few posters who should not have been banned. I do think Norm has a heavy hand on that ban button.
    You are far from being fully informed to pass judgment. What we see on the BJTF boards themselves is not always the complete picture, far from it. Some things should remain private, to prevent the members from picking sides, and try to stay neutral. However, what does take place on the boards themselves is more than enough to keep us busy.


    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    Is the site not worth your time because all its speculative posts are BS and wrong. What about that vetting of individual posters. When they speculate do they say it is speculation or try to lead you to believe it is a fact. After all you know it is false.
    Three, since you brought it up, how do you yourself meet the standard? One member of that site has a statement at the end of any post that involves you which says:

    "After over 10000 BS bragging posts, it turns out that T3 doesn't even play BJ! What a damn joke, LOL"

    How do you respond to this quote, was he speculating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    How do you respond to this quote, was he speculating?
    Of course I play BJ. And I have played a lot of BJ in my lifetime than any other game. I just know many AP opportunities and pursue the most lucrative one depending on casino conditions each time I show up. If none are to my liking I either scout or move on. Well I might wait a bit if previous scouting says it would make finding something worth playing likely. These people have no idea what I do. They have invented a history etc that never existed. Now you have to ask what their motivation to do this is. I will leave that to you to figure out. It is clear they are trying to make people believe I don't know anything about BJ with those statements. Why would they want to make people believe such a lie? Are they a one trick AP that only knows one play so they are jealous of more versatile APs and feel the need to belittle those with more skills than they have worked to have?

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    "I just know many AP opportunities and pursue the most lucrative one depending on casino conditions each time I show up. If none are to my liking I either scout or move on.". This is probably where they have a hard time believing you. It assumes that there is every likelihood that "other AP opportunities" exist at most casinos and since you do not include examples, AP's who believe that skill only works with BJ , see it as hyperbole.

    After all these years and posts by you, how is it even possible that "these people have no idea what they do"? I mean, its obvious from my posts that I am a flawed recreational counter with a bit of good variance, that other posters are good BJ AP's, so why is it that people do not know what you do unless you are not clear about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    After all these years and posts by you, how is it even possible that "these people have no idea what they do"?
    First of all if you are going to quote me get the words right, "these people have no idea what I do". If you knew enough not to post every last detail of what you do you wouldn't even be asking this question. I doubt anyone else on the forum posts exactly what they do. The best will post sensitive things cryptically or not post them at all. That way the ignorant will not understand them. I assume while casino employees might not be stupid they are ignorant about the most secret AP play and why they work. A smart AP will never give enough info on a public forum for anyone to know exactly what they are doing. So those that think they know what any smart AP is doing from their posts are always wrong. If they are educated in AP enough to get cryptic references they may be a little more accurate. But I know what I am doing and they have no idea. They have created a myth so they can mock me that has no basis in anything that came out of my posts. If they are that insecure and petty that they need to make shit up then they have blown all their credibility in my book. Perhaps you should come to the same conclusion. The same guys that make a myth about me do the same thing with Norm, Tarzan, Flash, etc. They are basically picking on the people that have done the most research with rare exceptions. You should know that most if not all of what they post is not true for at least some of those they attack. Either they are too stupid to understand us or they are just liars. Either way anyone that believes them has a mind to weak to discern things for themselves based on the reality of what a smart AP posts or are just an extremely gullible person that has no ability to realize when a source is not credible.

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