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    Slow Dealing as Countermeasure

    Has anyone here, in a location where they cannot legally bar counters, experienced especially slow dealing used as a countermeasure? It has (possibly) happened to me a couple times, but just as I thought it was certain at one point it continued with ploppies around the table (where a countermeasure like half-shoe shuffle would take away less income from them for the casino... more hands played and all). There was one time it was so (what I thought was) blatantly obvious by the dealer's interest between hands in picking up specks of dust from the felt... every single hand.

    Perhaps it's paranoia l, but it certainly made the game unattractive which is why I could see it being sort of effective, other than making the table far less efficient at getting money from ploppies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesonDetroit View Post
    Has anyone here, in a location where they cannot legally bar counters, experienced especially slow dealing used as a countermeasure? It has (possibly) happened to me a couple times, but just as I thought it was certain at one point it continued with ploppies around the table (where a countermeasure like half-shoe shuffle would take away less income from them for the casino... more hands played and all). There was one time it was so (what I thought was) blatantly obvious by the dealer's interest between hands in picking up specks of dust from the felt... every single hand.

    Perhaps it's paranoia l, but it certainly made the game unattractive which is why I could see it being sort of effective, other than making the table far less efficient at getting money from ploppies.

    Thanks, folks!

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    I have never played in a locale where counters could not be barred. Slow deales as a countermeasure, have been used on me twice. Once, in Vegas, in an almost laughable situation, and the other , in a store close to home housing the dumbest dealers on earth - the critter in this case telling dealer, slower slower.

    She was a big girl, whose boyfriend likely dreaded Thursday nights. I can still envision it - slower slower.

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    Sometimes a dealer wants the sole player at her table to go away, join another table (maybe she would rather stand alone and say dream of chat with a pit person). So, she will let you know that she has been running hot and you will lose your money fast or just do slow dealing so you would go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Sometimes a dealer wants the sole player at her table to go away, join another table (maybe she would rather stand alone and say dream of chat with a pit person). So, she will let you know that she has been running hot and you will lose your money fast or just do slow dealing so you would go away.
    If the dealer is running hot that means they are due for a cold streak. LoL

    I have run into extremely slow dealers or tables but never as a countermeasure. All a casino needs to do is indicate I have overstayed my welcome and I am gone. It is easy to see the cues but many APs are oblivious to their surroundings. Just because a casino can't back you off doesn't mean even worse can't happen if you play where you are not welcome.

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    If the player is heads up, I can understand the tactic. If there are other players at the table (are there ever?), then it's an incredibly stupid move on the casino's part.

    Personally, I've never experienced it. I have experienced them replacing the dealer with an incredibly fast one, in an attempt to fluster me. They failed :-)

    Also, I was once playing a DD pitch game in the PNW with an excellent dealer. Pit's phone rang, and next thing you know, PC says to the dealer, "Deal face up and slow down. Surveillance can't keep up with the count."

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    If the player is heads up, I can understand the tactic. If there are other players at the table (are there ever?), then it's an incredibly stupid move on the casino's part.

    Personally, I've never experienced it. I have experienced them replacing the dealer with an incredibly fast one, in an attempt to fluster me. They failed :-)

    Also, I was once playing a DD pitch game in the PNW with an excellent dealer. Pit's phone rang, and next thing you know, PC says to the dealer, "Deal face up and slow down. Surveillance can't keep up with the count."
    In both instances I alluded to, I was heads up. You're right - to purposely slow down with ploppies at the table is sheer lunacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Personally, I've never experienced it. I have experienced them replacing the dealer with an incredibly fast one, in an attempt to fluster me. They failed :-)
    I have seen this very often. All they did was make me a faster counter. I had no problem keeping up with the fastest dealers and I track so many things simultaneously that I can only imagine how laughable it is for those doing 1 relatively simple task.

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    Thanks for all the input folks; yeah I was surprised when it felt like countermeasure AND YET there was a ploppie at the table. Then again, perhaps since it was only one they just didn't care much (maybe the person was a "reliable" degenerate, wouldn't have been hard to believe). Either way, I have better ways/places to spend my time.

    Yes, I love when they bring in a fast dealer. Not sure if it has been used as a countermeasure in my case or it has just been my dumb luck, and don't care too much; I'll ride that gift as long as they hand it to me haha.

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    Fast dealer=pay raise

    I did experience this once, but there three of us at the table. Literally a minute between hands, then the discussion about the hands, then at one point the dealer wouldn't deal until she completed a rundown of the many restaurant offerings in the casino. I left, walked around a bit, noticed the table was empty. The min bet, however, had been changed from $25 to $100.

    It was in Vegas.

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    They don't want to try this one on me. While it would be effective, that table would cease to make money.

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