Basic Strategy vs Index

[Three]

Need three colors: red, green, and blue for hit. :-)

Don

That will do it. The software I look at for my analysis has separate lines for each decision. Though irrelevant for 4,4v6, it would have a stand line as well.

[Dbs6582]

We were doing two different exercises. I was trying to compare two graphs of two different plays, while you were both (correctly) just looking at the split vs. no split graph, making the assumption that, in this case, no split had to mean double down (instead of hit). It probably would help if the green label were "no split (double instead)," for clarity.

In any event, +13 it is. Knowledge of which won't buy you two hot dogs on the boardwalk for the rest of your life!! :-)

Don

Agreed! It might not be worth much but at least it settles a friendly disagreement I’ve had with another AP (not on this forum). I’ve believed there should be an index number where it makes sense to double rather than split 4,4 vs 5 and 6. I haven’t seen it any of my bj books, but it just sounded reasonable. I agree I haven’t seen many +13s before and when I have I doubt if I had this unique hand so it’s probably worth even less than one hot dog the rest of my life. But still interesting to know. It’s now another index number seared into my brain that will never add any value. I got too many of these already. Thanks!

[Three]

The interesting thing would be which one is more RA than the other for when they are essentially equal. Splitting hands adds covariance between the split hands where doubling doesn't.

[Sharpe]

Quick (and dumb) question about deviations/ indexes. With a soft 19 vs a Dealer 6, basic strategy says to double. According to table 9 & 10 in Professional BJ (pg 46-49), the index to deviate from this decision is +1 (S17) and 0 (H17)...

Would the deviation be to "stay", or "hit" A,8 v 6? I would assume the player should stay but wanted to be sure...

[Three]

Quick (and dumb) question about deviations/ indexes. With a soft 19 vs a Dealer 6, basic strategy says to double. According to table 9 & 10 in Professional BJ (pg 46-49), the index to deviate from this decision is +1 (S17) and 0 (H17)...

Would the deviation be to "stay", or "hit" A,8 v 6? I would assume the player should stay but wanted to be sure...

I am pretty sure it is to stand. I don't use hilo but that is the only thing that makes sense. After deviating from the doubling BS. You should then apply a hit/stand index if one exists. If it doesn't follow BS for the hit/stand decision.

[Bubbles]

Quick (and dumb) question about deviations/ indexes. With a soft 19 vs a Dealer 6, basic strategy says to double. According to table 9 & 10 in Professional BJ (pg 46-49), the index to deviate from this decision is +1 (S17) and 0 (H17)...

Would the deviation be to "stay", or "hit" A,8 v 6? I would assume the player should stay but wanted to be sure...

Stand. Double +1 or more. Though it hardly matters if you stand or double with how close the EV runs. Don't hit.

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[Jack Jackson]

Agreed! It might not be worth much but at least it settles a friendly disagreement I’ve had with another AP (not on this forum). I’ve believed there should be an index number where it makes sense to double rather than split 4,4 vs 5 and 6. I haven’t seen it any of my bj books, but it just sounded reasonable. I agree I haven’t seen many +13s before and when I have I doubt if I had this unique hand so it’s probably worth even less than one hot dog the rest of my life. But still interesting to know. It’s now another index number seared into my brain that will never add any value. I got too many of these already. Thanks!

I Play/Practice on a Probablity Gaming Computer that gives you the optimal decision ON every single play...And you will occasionally see where doubling 44 vs 2,3,4,5, and 6 is better than splitting in a DAS game...As a matter of fact the index for Ho2 for Doubling 44vs2 is +25 whereas splitting this Hand is +27..So unless im mistaken its better to double 44vs2 than it is to split this hand EVEN in a Das game..