CVCX KO 6D Wong Out vs Play All Question

[Blackjack Eddie]

I ran a sim using CVCX with the following conditions:

KO Preferred
6D, H17, DAS, RSA, Double any 2 Cards
75% pen
100 hands per hour
$10 Units (Spread 1-8) ($10 - $80)
4 players at table

Start play at beginning of shuffle
Wong out at or below the following running counts at the following shoe depths:
1 deck @ KO Running Count of -21
2 deck @ KO Running Count of -16
3 deck @ KO Running Count of -11

Essentially these Wong Out points are equivalent to a HiLo True Count of -1

The optimal bet results of this sim shows a Win/Hour of $5.89

Now whenI view the KO Preferred 6D play all archived sim that is included with the CVCX software in the archived sims section the optimal Win/Hour is $10.75 for the same 1-8 spread ($10-$80) and all the same rules and conditions.

Question: Why is the win/hour higher for the play all vs the wong out game? It seems to me that if you are avoiding the really bad negative counts then that should by itself allow the wong out game to show a higher win/hour vs the play all with the same conditions and rules. What am I missing?

Thanks for any help with this question.

[seriousplayer]

I ran a sim using CVCX with the following conditions:

KO Preferred
6D, H17, DAS, RSA, Double any 2 Cards
75% pen
100 hands per hour
$10 Units (Spread 1-8) ($10 - $80)
4 players at table

Start play at beginning of shuffle
Wong out at or below the following running counts at the following shoe depths:
1 deck @ KO Running Count of -21
2 deck @ KO Running Count of -16
3 deck @ KO Running Count of -11

Essentially these Wong Out points are equivalent to a HiLo True Count of -1

The optimal bet results of this sim shows a Win/Hour of $5.89

Now whenI view the KO Preferred 6D play all archived sim that is included with the CVCX software in the archived sims section the optimal Win/Hour is $10.75 for the same 1-8 spread ($10-$80) and all the same rules and conditions.

Question: Why is the win/hour higher for the play all vs the wong out game? It seems to me that if you are avoiding the really bad negative counts then that should by itself allow the wong out game to show a higher win/hour vs the play all with the same conditions and rules. What am I missing?

Thanks for any help with this question.

Could you copy and paste a screenshot of the simulation you are talking about so we can look at it to see what is wrong?

[Phoebe]

Look at "backcounting". Probably around 25%
You leave the game too early.

[Phoebe]

Suggestion, Wong out at IRC+6 after 2 decks (thanks Norm)
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Or "force shuffle on exit". Easy in CVCX. Less IRC (In Real Casino)

[Norm]

You're not going to play many hands with those wong out points.

[Blackjack Eddie]

Thanks everyone for the help.

[Stealth]

The optimal bet results of this sim shows a Win/Hour of $5.89

Now whenI view the KO Preferred 6D play all archived sim that is included with the CVCX software in the archived sims section the optimal Win/Hour is $10.75 for the same 1-8 spread ($10-$80) and all the same rules and conditions.

Question: Why is the win/hour higher for the play all vs the wong out game? It seems to me that if you are avoiding the really bad negative counts then that should by itself allow the wong out game to show a higher win/hour vs the play all with the same conditions and rules. What am I missing?

Because win/hour is a function of how many hands you are playing.

So, if playing for one hour, and wonging out as described, you are likely only playing about 15-20% of the hours (100hph) rounds.

The number you need to look at is win per round, not per hour. Then you will see the difference.