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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny322 View Post
    Foxwoods has low table minimum ($10) and 3/2 blackjack. You have to be a sucker to play the $10 table at Mohegan Sun or the 6/5 games at MGM Springfield.
    Even if you just play $10 a hand, on average 1 in 21 hands is a natural, so $3 extra for each twenty-one hands.
    Hi, Kenny. A third option for Connecticut blackjack players is about an hour away in Lincoln, RI. All blackjack at Twin River is 3:2 and every table is S17. Low minimum players won't get $10 minimums but there are plenty at $15. These are 8 deck games. At $50 minimums it's 6 decks instead of 8 with all rules the same as the Ct. high limit pits. In fact, except for the 8 decks, every Twin River blackjack table has the same rules as the Ct high limit pits.

    It's not the glitz and glamour of the Ct casinos and there are less tables but for the best rules in the area for low limits look no further. You cannot play $10 blackjack at Mohegan Sun if. Those limits are for the 6:5 tables only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paymypush View Post
    These are 8 deck games. At $50 minimums it's 6 decks instead of 8 with all rules the same as the Ct. high limit pits. In fact, except for the 8 decks, every Twin River blackjack table has the same rules as the Ct high limit pits.
    There are differences in the splitting of hand rules. Mohegan Sun is the best with unlimited splits (at least in the high limit area) except for aces which only one split allowed with each hand getting only one card. Twin River allows resplitting only twice except aces that is treated the exact same exact way as the M sun. Foxwoods I think (I have not been there for a while) falls in-between the other two casinos regarding splits.
    Last edited by BoSox; 12-01-2019 at 09:21 AM.

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    No splitting 10s at MS. I remember years ago that the high limit room at the MGM Grand at Foxwoods allowed re splitting of aces. This was for that room only. To compensate they went to H17. It didn't last long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paymypush View Post
    No splitting 10s at MS.
    Thank you for that reminder, as I forgot about that one as I never use it. I consider splitting ten-value cards too much of a red flag, just my personal preference.

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    As you may be saying, one would have to be a complete fool to ever split tens.

    The $10 minimum is fine at Foxwoods - Mohegan has $15 but they went H17. Unfortunately, Foxwoods went H17 many years ago which is why I stopped going (until Mohegan's changes forced me to go when they created a worse situation..2% house advantage for H17.

    Here is a question on counting. Does the "eye in the sky" work where they can identify the count at each table
    If they have facial recognition software, why can't they use software to detect the count at each table and use it to identify players who increase the wager in player favorable counts.

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    I do split tens but I never do it willy-nilly. It's only after the careful consideration of many factors. It has been very lucrative for me but it has also caused it's share of problems including backoffs. No matter how much you think you know a place, the unexpected can and will happen.

    A good example of the unexpected is one backoff where the dealer shouted out "splitting tens." This casino does not require the dealers to make that notification, this one took it upon himself for whatever reason. No one I know can remember ever hearing a dealer do that at this place.

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    I can't see splitting 10's, even if the dealer is showing a 4,5 or 6. The count would have to indicate the deck is so rich in 10's/A's (like 75%) and if the deck was that rich, the original wager would have been huge in the hopes of getting dealt a 20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny322 View Post
    I can't see splitting 10's, even if the dealer is showing a 4,5 or 6. The count would have to indicate the deck is so rich in 10's/A's (like 75%) and if the deck was that rich, the original wager would have been huge in the hopes of getting dealt a 20.
    No need to guess about this. All modern counting systems identify the precise point (index) at which splitting 10s becomes better than standing. The real problem is whether it draws too much attention to do it as often as the index suggests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny322 View Post
    I can't see splitting 10's, even if the dealer is showing a 4,5 or 6. The count would have to indicate the deck is so rich in 10's/A's (like 75%) and if the deck was that rich, the original wager would have been huge in the hopes of getting dealt a 20.
    That's precisely the point. Max bet IS out and I hope to get dealt more than one 20 from the hand as well as hoping for the dealer to break if I don't get good hands from the split. It does work. In the absence of heat I will split 10s every time it's called for. If I didn't I would feel like I was leaving money behind. It can be frustrating to not be able to take advantage of a juicy hand because of heat but that's the discipline that we all have to learn.

    Take a look at the Illustrious 18. The splitting of 10s is high on the list at number 4 and 5. I'm not attempting to change your mind, just giving you food for thought.

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    Mohegan Sun in Ct has added another side bet to all it's blackjack games, including the high limit tables. Not everyone is happy to have the game further slowed by three sidebets.

    The latest is Buster Blackjack and it joins Match The Dealer and the Super 4 progressive. Payouts are stingy compared to other casinos and there is something called Dealer Envy where the dealer can win when the player wins and drop the winnings into the toke box.

    The house edge must be high. Has anyone tried to count Buster Blackjack?

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    Do they still have 6/5? Foxwoods advertises 3/2. Lets hope Mohegan returns back and they also should stand on all 17. Bring us REAL blackjack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny322 View Post
    Do they still have 6/5? Foxwoods advertises 3/2. Lets hope Mohegan returns back and they also should stand on all 17. Bring us REAL blackjack.
    To get the latest first hand updates, I walked both properties yesterday. The results were not encouraging.

    Mohegan Sun is down to 8 6:5 tables after removing a pit to accomodate more slots. These tables do not get much play during the week but can have players waiting for a seat on weekends. They keep them at $10 minimums and that is attractive to many. They have also re-instituted the grandfather clause here.

    Foxwoods has been going back and forth and seems unable to make up its mind about 6:5. As recently as January they had booted every 6:5 table from the property. That is not the case now. I counted 48 6:5 tables there. I'm going to write this out so there is no misunderstanding. There are forty eight 6:5 tables at Foxwoods as of right now. The Pequot Casino is the only one without any.

    This is the main floor with 8 deck H17. High limit rooms remain the same. It is difficult to get a proper spread in these rooms, especially at Foxwoods.

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    Paymypush, I was at both locations this past weekend. See my review of MS in the "Eastern" section of the forum. I also have some notes about FW 6:5.

    At FW the Grand Pequot does have 6:5 games. They are located on the outer area next to the craps and carnival games. On the weekend they are open. At the former MGM now Fox Tower there are only 3 3:2 regular blackjack tables. In the Great Cedar there are a maximum of four and in the Rainmaker there are four also. The rest of the available tables are 6:5. On the weekend the 3:2 tables were pretty busy. It required more walking around to find suitable playing conditions than before.

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