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    this sucks. and don't forget they're making $$$ from their online casinos in NJ too. $3.6m total gaming win in May.

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    Mohegan Sun assumed management of Resorts AC in 2012. Let's hope they don't manage the blackjack rules. Resorts still has low limit S17 games at times and no 6:5.

    Hard Rock and Ocean Resort, formerly the Taj and Revel, are scheduled to open June 28th. Word from AC is that all Hard Rock blackjack will be 3:2 and surrender will be offered. It would be something to see surrender return to AC. Yes, I'm familiar with the place where you can request surrender but it's not the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paymypush View Post
    It would be something to see surrender return to AC.
    ES?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    ES?
    Ah the good old days! I remember them well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paymypush View Post
    Ah the good old days! I remember them well.

    they actually have this online at live dealers games in NJ. horrific, non-countable games (8 decks, less than 50% pen, H17) but they do offer ES. found that very odd

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    MGM opens in Springfield on 8/24/18 and I assume the games are going to suck, other than the hi-limit area which will be watched closely. Mohegan Sun who for the most part always had good rules and poor pen for twenty years. Now they make drastic changes a few months before they get a new competitor the timing seems baffling, to say the least as I still do not see the logic. Mass. players will have no reason to ever go back. The joint venture between Foxwoods/Sun is still two years away from opening.

    Why do you assume that MGM will be bad? I think that the rules there will be good. For a new place to open up, they have to have attractive rules. Look at the majority of new places in NYS. The rules at MGM in Vegas are the best on the strip at least when I was there about five years ago. They have acted aggressively so far working to take part of the CT market etc so I would expect that BJ rules will be competitive.

    I agree with your assessment of MS's untimely change to the table rules. Once MGM opens with decent rules, hopefully, we'll see MS return to what was an "acceptable" game. Otherwise, for me, MGM is actually a shorter ride! That joint venture will only be a slot hall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halbruno View Post
    Why do you assume that MGM will be bad?
    Only because of all the many options that the State Gaming Commision has written and is in the process of finalizing for all of the table game regulations. They might as well been written by the casinos themselves, it is all on the website. Everything is about the money and the state wants to make sure that they get theirs.

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    It is sad when the arm of government that is supposed to keep casinos in check for both the public's safety and the casino longevity become corrupt and abandon their function in these capacities. I guess Massachusetts is starting corrupt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halbruno View Post
    Why do you assume that MGM will be bad? I think that the rules there will be good. For a new place to open up, they have to have attractive rules. Look at the majority of new places in NYS. The rules at MGM in Vegas are the best on the strip at least when I was there about five years ago. They have acted aggressively so far working to take part of the CT market etc so I would expect that BJ rules will be competitive.

    I agree with your assessment of MS's untimely change to the table rules. Once MGM opens with decent rules, hopefully, we'll see MS return to what was an "acceptable" game. Otherwise, for me, MGM is actually a shorter ride! That joint venture will only be a slot hall.
    The joint venture between Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods won a local zoning permit Tuesday but the feds have yet to sign off on the project.

    If construction starts this fall, the opening will be in the spring of 2020.

    About 2000 slots and 60 table games are proposed.

    The casino will be 180,000 square feet and no hotel is planned.

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    Over the weekend a fourth 6:5 pit was installed at this once mediocre casino. Will Foxwoods follow suit or will they jump at the chance to take advantage of this situation?

    There's no need to squint at the felts. If it's $10 minimums it's 6:5.

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    Grand total is now 39 6:5 tables. Players are starting to get comfortable at these tables as they are fueled by misinformation, lies by omission and outright lies from pit personnel and, in some cases, dealers. Players want the lower limits and these are the only $10 minimums in the house. Sadly there are $15 minimum tables steps away that pay 3:2.

    One high limit pit has 8 decks S17 and the other is 6 decks S17. That's the one in the Sky Casino where you walk down a few steps. With a base bet of $25 I can no longer get S17 or 6 decks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    It is sad when the arm of government that is supposed to keep casinos in check for both the public's safety and the casino longevity become corrupt and abandon their function in these capacities. I guess Massachusetts is starting corrupt.
    Apparently they are following Nevada's well-established model of a nearly-worthless Gaming Control agency.
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    Paymypush, can you explain how the pit personnel and dealers are lying? From the information you provided, it sounds pretty clear why these players are playing at the 6:5 tables. These tables have a lower table minimum. Is there something else I’m missing? I understand 6:5 is bad, but it’s common practice for casinos to make the odds worse for the tables with lower minimums.

    Since most these people are going to lose all their money regardless if they play 3:2 or 6:5, it really doesn’t matter which game they play. Even though 6:5 has worst odds, I expect their money will last a little longer on the 6:5 tables since the min is lower. I remember playing in Vegas about 20 years ago on a $1 or $2 table. I didn’t know how bad the rules were until I tried to split or double and they wouldn’t let me. I think it paid 3:2 but about everything else was off limits. It didn’t take me long to move to a higher limit table, like $5, where I got to do something. Lol

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