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  1. 06-26-2018, 06:22 AM #1
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    1st card values

    Can anyone tell me how the first card values, as stated by Griffin or Wong, were computed? By maths analysis or by sims?? And do they have to be adjusted for the HE of a particular game?

    E.g., Is an ace always worth 52% or (52% + HE) ??

    Serious replies appreciated,


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  2. 06-26-2018, 10:44 AM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by chucky baby View Post
    Can anyone tell me how the first card values, as stated by Griffin or Wong, were computed? By maths analysis or by sims??
    Either way. CA works fine; sims too.

    Quote Originally Posted by chucky baby View Post
    And do they have to be adjusted for the HE of a particular game?

    E.g., Is an ace always worth 52% or (52% + HE) ??
    Values will change slightly according to rules, number of decks, etc. Are you looking for something specific or just a general answer? For example, it's pretty clear that the value of a first ace will change if you may resplit aces, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Either way. CA works fine; sims too.



    Values will change slightly according to rules, number of decks, etc. Are you looking for something specific or just a general answer? For example, it's pretty clear that the value of a first ace will change if you may resplit aces, no?

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    Thank you Don. Which of your suggested factors would most affect the values? Number of decks?
    Can you suggest a source of info re how much the various factors affect these card values?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chucky baby View Post
    Thank you Don. Which of your suggested factors would most affect the values? Number of decks?
    Can you suggest a source of info re how much the various factors affect these card values?

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    There's obvious interaction. The changes should be slight, but with all the rules variations, along with number of decks to start with, you just have to input the rules into the CA and see what it spits out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    There's obvious interaction. The changes should be slight, but with all the rules variations, along with number of decks to start with, you just have to input the rules into the CA and see what it spits out.

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    Dion is a male name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Dion is a male name.

    Or, a last name as in Celine Dion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Dion is a male name.
    I only know a couple of Dions. They are both women. So I guess it is an androgynous name.
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    I know two. One is -and the Belmonts. The other is a (male) doc in Phila.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    Is Dion Don's twin sister. :-)
    I think that has to be the first time I actually typed my own name wrong. Sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    I think that has to be the first time I actually typed my own name wrong. Sad.

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    It happens. I occasionall have a typo as well. Just be diligent in your future endeavours
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