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Thread: I'm Looking for an Online Index Chart for DD Blackjack Game

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    I'm Looking for an Online Index Chart for DD Blackjack Game

    I want something more than just the Illust 18. I'm looking for a chart like whats is in Professional Blackjack by Wong. I prefer the Halves Count, but will settle for Hi-Lo since the indexes are so close anyway.

    This is the closest I could find from the Game Master Blackjack school. However I think this is for a non DAS game and I want a DAS game. I don't want to dig out my book every time I want to check an index. Having a chart online would be great. Anybody have anything or know of a link to such a chart.

    https://www.blackjackinfo.com/files/...Variations.htm

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    I just took pictures of the index charts in my book... starred them, and now I can reach them in 5 seconds on my phone when I want.

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    Why not make your own spreadsheet in Excel or Google docs. I can access any of my charts from my phone.

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    Why not post a poll asking how Zee would do it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Why not post a poll asking how Zee would do it?
    Better yet, why don't you contribute something worth while for a change instead of just bashing Zee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Better yet, why don't you contribute something worth while for a change instead of just bashing Zee.
    That wasn't a Zee bash. Don't understand how you could see it that way.

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    I like this chart better, but I don't know what type of bj game it is for. I'm guessing it is for an S17 game by some of the index values. The first chart I linked to is missing even some of the indexes that are in the Illust 18. Not good!

    http://www.blackjackscience.com/medi...dex-Charts.pdf
    Last edited by Midwest Player; 05-21-2018 at 09:13 AM.

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    "I like this chart better, but I don't know what type of bj game it is for."

    Multi-deck, S17, DAS.

    "I'm guessing it is for an S17 game by some of the index values. The first chart I linked to is missing even some of the indexes that are in the Illust 18. Not good!"

    In the present chart, the red +3 for 9,9 vs. 7 should be green. Not sure why, for A,7 Hit < +1, you wouldn't simply put +1 at which you stand, like every other standing number in the chart. Some of the negative values appear to be truncated, rather than floored. Not sure.

    Don

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    The late "MathProf" was a very highly respected Detroit Math Professor.

    I have used his Hi-Opt II indices for DD H17 games. Not copyrighted.

    Here you are:


    https://www.dropbox.com/s/wpjo1xe5k3...dices.pdf?dl=0

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    Thanks ZMF - the Math Prof indicies are almost dead on to what I use, which were generated from CVData.

    But a couple questions on splitting 8s - The Math Prof indices for splitting 88 v. 10 say split up to a TC of +34 and stand thereafter. That couldn't be right. The HO2 index for that play is somewhere between +8 and +12 depending on risk-averse or not. Also, the Math Prof index for 88 v. A is shown as -4 (i.e., split if TC >=-4). That's way off - should be much lower, in the -24 range.

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    This chart shows the index number for 10 vs 9 is -4. I thought it was -1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbs6582 View Post
    This chart shows the index number for 10 vs 9 is -4. I thought it was -1.
    -4 is the correct index for this play using HO2. Keep in mind that HO2 is a level-two count. The index for this play using a level-one count (e.g., Hi-Lo or TKO) is -1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdaddy View Post
    -4 is the correct index for this play using HO2. Keep in mind that HO2 is a level-two count. The index for this play using a level-one count (e.g., Hi-Lo or TKO) is -1.
    Thanks. This chart also shows a -4 index for 11 vs 10. Is that the correct index fo Hi-Lo? I was surprised to see the same index number for 10 vs 9 and 11 vs 10. Regardless of the counting system, I thought these two playsbwould have different index numbers.

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