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    Dog Hand,

    Thanks anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by chucky baby View Post
    msg to DogHand...is the above correct? Note: indices are for half-decks and "no hole card, lose all to dealer bj".

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    When knowing the dealers up-card, you do the full split if the hand is plus EV when starting with the one of the split cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    When knowing the dealers up-card, you do the full split if the hand is plus EV when starting with the one of the split cards.
    Three,

    That's not necessarily so: for example, using your criterion they'd almost always split X's. If splitting is the best option AND is +EV, then the normal "equal" split is best.

    The tough question is when to perform the unequal split. To answer that, you need to know the ratio of "back bet" to "front bet" along with the EV's at the TC in question of both splitting and whatever the best option (H, S, DD) is. Given that information, the calculation is simple: but getting the EV information is the difficult part.

    Hope this helps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Hand View Post
    Three,

    That's not necessarily so: for example, using your criterion they'd almost always split X's. If splitting is the best option AND is +EV, then the normal "equal" split is best.

    The tough question is when to perform the unequal split. To answer that, you need to know the ratio of "back bet" to "front bet" along with the EV's at the TC in question of both splitting and whatever the best option (H, S, DD) is. Given that information, the calculation is simple: but getting the EV information is the difficult part.

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    Perhaps I didn't understand his question. I thought it was when does the back-bettor split when the front player splits. Not when should the front player split in order to help the back-player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    Perhaps I didn't understand his question. I thought it was when does the back-bettor split when the front player splits. Not when should the front player split in order to help the back-player.
    Three,

    Ahh, I see your perspective now. I assumed the front and back bettors are working together.

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    Three...

    Originally Posted by Three Perhaps I didn't understand his question. I thought it was when does the back-bettor split when the front player splits. Not when should the front player split in order to help the back-player.

    Msg to Three... that is why it is called "sacrifice " splitting...front player (boxholder) sacrifices his ev on his small bet to help the back bettor (the piggybacker or "rider")...splitting 66 vs 7, 8, 9, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by chucky baby View Post
    Msg to Three... that is why it is called "sacrifice " splitting...front player (boxholder) sacrifices his ev on his small bet to help the back bettor (the piggybacker or "rider")...splitting 66 vs 7, 8, 9, etc
    Yes, but asking about how to play the back bettors hand (Are my indices right for playing the back bettors hand?) is asking how to play the back bettors hand.

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