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    Quote Originally Posted by San Jose Bella View Post
    wow, it seems getting a player's card is a good choice now.
    Hope the FRS doesn't record everyone around the pit when the big money is played. Otherwise, when the BP team revisit the casino, they can see a clear pattern that these specific people show up again.
    Let's not forget that most players cards are provided after giving them your drivers license, which they scan. Your photo is readily available. May not be the only way they get your image but it is likely a major one.

    As I have said several times the EV you may get from comps is overwhelmed by the lost EV from never playing again in this store, much less the chance that it may effect you at other stores.

    Zeebar, continues to tell you how little OSN has affected him, and I am happy for him, but it is very bad advice to be oblivious to this and the many other threats that will come from effective AP play. I am also very aware of various cover techniques that influence this issue and encourage all to pursue and implement those that fit your game and risk level. They can mitigate some of the issues.

    But not all. Remember, they are not going to come to you and say, "If you keep moving your bets with the count or presenting a winning game over time we will back you off or worse". They just do it, abrupt and final. You are then required to add more risk to your play at those casinos by risking being recognized, either by management or FRS. Now you have pissed them off and this can result in trespass. Or they won't recognize you and you will get away with it, this time.

    I am sure many can structure a number of other sets of conditions that are both more favorable and more penal.

    In any case, consider the negative impacts higher that the positive. Or don't and learn by getting burned.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Look, I am in OSN and they have a clear shot of me and my car. Yet, I still play rated at many places, still got comped in Las Vegas and MS.
    When you state these things, I think you should also mention that you have plenty of fall back options if things go wrong. You are not depending on blackjack winnings to carry on your lifestyle. So you act the way that is right for you. Other players who read your post may not live in the same comfort zone as you and may actually depend more on anonymity. Please be careful with your advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Since I have players cards from almost every chain, if I have a losing session, I often "find" my card and hand it in so they could record my losses.
    Again you are doing something that is right for you. Zee, I think that is a poor move itself, and at least draws attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    When you state these things, I think you should also mention that you have plenty of fall back options if things go wrong. You are not depending on blackjack winnings to carry on your lifestyle. So you act the way that is right for you. Other players who read your post may not live in the same comfort zone as you and may actually depend more on anonymity. Please be careful with your advice.

    Again you are doing something that is right for you. Zee, I think that is a poor move itself, and at least draws attention.
    Bosox, I am not giving advice, just simply stating how things have gone for me. I indicated that I play rated less often these days. I have gotten away with significantly diminished heat when playing rated as my style of play (DD games, mingling 2 hands and one hand, etc.) draws great scrutiny when playing unrated. When playing rated, perhaps they go by lifetime earnings or let someone else look at my record and make a decision.

    I am trying to develop different strategies when playing unrated, learning to play 6 deck games and such. Where and when I play, the casinos are far apart and often have only 1-2 tables open which often means wonging out loses your place at the table.

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