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    X2....gaurantee I can find at least 1 voodoo comment from every other poster ....lol

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    Yeah the guy sounds like a half ass counter. Not sure why he would feel the need to spread to 7 spots, but not even hit table max...

    You can try to chase him off like Freightman suggested, but I don’t know how well that’ll work. I would maybe just avoid him if you can.

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    Typically, counters will spread horizontally when they no longer have the ability to spread vertically (capped by table max). I know some guys on very large bankrolls who’ve played low table max games. When they get capped by low table max, they start spreading to multiple spots of table max. Sometimes 3 spots, or even all 7 spots, if the casino (and conditions) will allow it.

    Spreading to 7 spots at 40% of table max makes no sense to me... I could maybe think of one or two situations where spreading like that could maybe be justified, but I think it would be rare.

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    Most of the casino's I play table max is the aggregate of your bets so spreading horizontally would involve lowering your bets on each spot so the spots add to table max. That said they usually only enforce this selectively. If they enforce it on you, you have a problem brewing. It isn't going to be long before something bad happens.

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    Don't play at a table with a whale and don't play at a table with another card counter. When somebody is doing something stupid at BJ, it's your chance to be at another table while they're watching the idiot....

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    Jeez, this is just retarded.

    You can play at another table, if there is one, when that guy is playing. Otherwise, play when he's not playing......or you can fight it, get upset, yada yada ya....

    If he's allowed to spread to 7 hands of however much....then he should be able to. Would you "be okay" with it if he bet 7x$500 instead of 7x$200? Would you have this same problem if he was a complete ploppy and not a card counter?

    This obviously nukes the count within a round or two, the dealer tends to mop up the low cards after the high card slog (rarely busts) and covariance with that many boxes neuters most of the advantage gleaned through ramping that he had anyway
    That's just entirely false.

    The TC tends to stay the same. If the TC is +4 before this round, it should tend to be +4 after this round. It doesn't matter if there's 1 hand or 7 hands in the round. The math is the math. The RC decreases at a proportional rate to the decks remaining so that the TC stays the same. (I think I said the proper words and terminology there. Dooonnnnn!?)

    How does the covariance neuter the advantage? This is sounding like some voodoo nonsense if I've ever seen it.
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    Any time I see someone counting at the table with me I get up immediately and make a mental note to never play at the same table as them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharky View Post
    Best advice...dont play his table if it bothers YOU...

    ...and everyone else..perhaps YOU are the dipshits...of course, I didn't read your lengthy posts...just know the handles....bunch of vooooodoooo MFers, for sure....she/he apparently has a larger br and brain than y'all...

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    As already mentioned, that's not possible. Tassie knows why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbs6582 View Post
    That was my take when I read the OP's post. Most of it was vodoo. One example: "The dealer tends to mop up the low cards after the high card slug (rarely busts)...". A counter doesn't know where the high cards reside. Now if he was a shuffle tracker this sentence might have made more sense. The OP made several other comments that were right out of vodoo 101 ploppie logic.

    Also, isn't one of the cardinal rules that two counters shouldn't be playing at the same table so they don't look like synchronized swimmers? This reason alone should be why the OP shouldn't be playing at this table. I know when I'm playing with a person I've found out is a counter, I move fairly quickly.
    I use loose shuffle tracking, yes. More shuffle steering actually. I'm pretty sure this dufus knew it too as he always wanted me to cut the decks. What's voodoo about 7 spots consuming 2.8 cards per box on average before the dealer draws another card under NHC? That's nearly half a deck and is enough to significantly change the remaining composition.

    Again, like it has been said numerous times already, playing another table isnt an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS View Post
    Jeez, this is just retarded.
    How do I rate this unhelpful? Posts and people like this make what was once a useful and resourceful forum a cesspit..

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    love it!

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    Just sit in the middle of the table. Players can't spread across other player's spots. Sit on the side of him that will block the most spots from his spreading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    Just sit in the middle of the table. Players can't spread across other player's spots. Sit on the side of him that will block the most spots from his spreading.
    That's a great and simple solution actually. Never thought of that. Although I might have to spread to three boxes myself, which is fine as I'd just bet 50% of the corresponding single box bet in each. Even if he back bets it's my box and my call.

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