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Thread: Does anyone use the 6/5 and other carnival-game listings in CBJN?

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    I'll play a 6/5 table if I can play heads-up, penetration is 75% (±5%), with DAS RSA, especially if S17. (I have never seen a S17
    6/5 single deck.) I would use a 20-1 spread
    with the St. Jude Count.
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    Zenmaster, what is the St. Jude Count? I play a fair amount of 6/5 single deck with about the conditions you've given above. I use HiLo with a bunch of side counts. My spread is about 20-1, sometimes greater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbs6582 View Post
    Zenmaster, what is the St. Jude Count?
    St Jude is the patron Saint of hope and impossible causes thus the name for the ST Jude Count to be used on 6:5 games.

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    As per your request:

    Here you are. You asked for it. You got it.
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    Thanks Flash! I doubt if I'll use all of it but I will study it, and try to use some of the concepts. I have simmed the 6:5 game on Norm's products and it shows that it's beatable. It also shows that you start having an advantage at +2 count with HiLo. Do you agree?

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    How about a separate section titled Las Vegas 6:5? It can be after the Las Vegas casinos & list on a single line all 6:5, csm, carnival games. Also a USA West 6:5 section, while leaving the rest of the country's 6:5 games unchanged. Or how about a cutoff of games with more than a 1% house edge?

    I would be all for getting rid of them entirely esp. if it makes your work easier. Personally, I get a pen & ruler and cross out 6:5, Super Fun 21, Spanish 21, csm, switch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbs6582 View Post
    "start having an advantage at +2 count with HiLo."
    Playing a DD or SD game with Hi-Lo is ill-advised.
    (an understatement)


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    Playing a DD or SD game with Hi-Lo is ill-advised.
    (an understatement)
    Understood. I agree with you on this. My problem is I have a hard time socializing at the table and watching tv with a more advanced count than HiLo. That's why I use HiLo and sometimes mix in some side counting. I also pay attention to what cards I'm seeing. If I see more 5 and 6s than 2 and 3s, I know I have more of an advantage at the same count.

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    Playing a DD or SD game with Hi-Lo is ill-advised
    LOL, from time to time you drop a stupidity.
    G Man

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    Quote Originally Posted by G Man View Post
    LOL, from time to time you drop a stupidity.
    You are only one that feels that way.

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    So?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky View Post
    You are only one that feels that way.
    Nope

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Dbs. Do you have CV Data? Try switching the value of the two and seven for DD and SD games.
    yes, I've got CV Data and have used it to sim my 6:5game. When I get home I'll try doing the sim you're referring to. Thanks!

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